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    Yamaha F150, pros and cons???
from Paul (207.158.92.42)  
11/12/2004 8:15:00 PM

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 I checked with my boat dealer today on prices and options on a new rig for 2005. The salesman told me that there was only a $2695 dollar difference between a Vmax 150 and a F150 four stroke. I'll most likely buy the four stroke but I'd like to know the pros and cons of the four stroke since I don't have any experience with them at all. I had a Vmax 150 so I'm very familiar with it. Anyway, any comments would be a great help. Thanks in advance.


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   Dog !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! from BLACKRANGER  11/12/2004 9:04:00 PM
 That F150 is a dog and you will be REALLY dissapointed in it. Buy a HPDI , you wany regret it.


   Info from fishsmart (208.223.12.120)  11/13/2004 9:12:00 AM
 Paul,

Shop around - you can obtain a Yamaha 150 hp EFI TRP for the same price as the Yamaha 4 stroke.

Charles


   followup from Paul (207.158.92.42)  11/13/2004 9:20:00 AM
 Why is the F150 a dog? And, why is a TRP engine better?


   How much does a 150 run? from T (12.37.34.78)  11/13/2004 9:38:00 AM
 My 18year old Evinrude is finally giving up on me. What can I expect to spend for a 150 Yamaha?


   F150 Yamaha from BrownTrout (12.178.132.55)  11/13/2004 10:03:00 AM
 The Yamaha F150 4-stroke is not a dog compared to other 150s. You need to listen to someone who knows what they are talking about and not those who are simply "anti 4-stroke".

I've driven the Ranger 185 with the F150 and it was no dog. Great hole shot, good mid-range, super quiet, easy on gas and the environment and excellent for trolling. When I drove it, there was two men in the boat (about 450 lbs) and about half a tank of gas. Not sure about top end because it was new and I didn't want to push it too hard, but it ran up to 60 pretty easy on the speedo.

If Yamaha made a 175 4-stroke, it would be on the back of my 185 right now instead of the Optimax 175. That's how strongly I feel about these particular 4-strokes.

Take a test drive and make up your own mind.


   Yamaha 150 prices from Big Red (63.186.10.146)  11/13/2004 6:38:00 PM
  Boats.net always seems to have excellent prices and you can compare the different Yamaha 150's prices at this url

http://www.boats.net/cgi-local/listings.pl?stype=motor&type=list&HP=150.0


   Ed's Marine Superstore from Tony (24.159.73.147)  11/13/2004 7:16:00 PM
 I bought a 150 VMAX for $6643 out the door. Call Lisa at 804-798-6654 or check out www.edsmarinesuperstore.com


   Let's see from BLACKRANGER  11/13/2004 9:18:00 PM
 For starters BT ... I have driven a 18 foot Xpress with a yam 150 and it is a DOG. Just like a Ranger 185 that will only run 60 on the speedo which translates to about 54-55 GPS, terrible performance. Why would you not want to go 2 stroke DFI and get BETTER economy, BETTER performance and a BETTER price? I'd like to see every four stroke owner have to take a polygraph test.


   Prices from Paul (207.158.92.42)  11/14/2004 1:09:00 PM
 The HPDI Yamaha is actually around $1500 dollars more expensive than the F150 four stroke engine. Four stroke engines also will never explode due to carbon buildup and they only need a change of oil once every 100 hours or so. So unless your getting paid to drag race your boat I'm not quite sure how the holeshot and top end speed will make that much of a difference. A one to two second longer holeshot is not going to cause you to miss the "big one."


   Then why are you asking objective opinions on a board from BLACKRANGER  11/14/2004 2:38:00 PM
 if you already know what you want. If you don't care about performance then buy the four. I just assumed they were more money. If I had to pay more you can guarantee I would still pay more. Think about resale also.


   No Significant Difference from BrownTrout (12.178.132.55)  11/14/2004 2:47:00 PM
 Commenting again on the Yamaha 150 4-stroke compared to the Yamaha 150 2-stroke which was the original question:

Using the Ranger 185 as a test case, I doubt you would notice any difference in holeshot between the two engines. Top end on the F150 after breakin would be somewhere around 58 to 60 mph on the GPS depending on conditions and load which is not much less than the Yammie 2-stroke. So, performance is not significantly different. To say the 150 4-stoke is a dog is the same as saying that all Yamaha 150 hp engines are dogs, including the 2-stroke 150s. Besides, are you going to race your boat or fish with it? Does one or at most two mph on top end really make that much difference to you?

As pointed out, the F150 is not much different in price than the others and cheaper than the HPDI, uses less oil and should have better fuel economy than the carb and EFI. It's just as dependable if not more than the 2-stroke equivalent and better for trolling.

Keep in mind that Mercury just discontinued production of the carb and EFI versions on some of their outboards. Can Yamaha be that far behind them in doing the same thing? (now I've really started something)


   F150 Performance - from Redfish (65.0.232.62)  11/14/2004 3:28:00 PM
 F150 hole shot is not as good as a VMAX two stroke and the top end speed is 4 to 5 mph less than a VMAX two stroke. Simple facts.


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