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    Cost of Weld Repairs for X-press
from Fitz (68.95.141.86)  
4/23/2006 10:22:00 PM

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 I purchased a used X-press X-21 that has many areas with cracked welds including a 3 foot section of the keel. I've been quoted $10 per inch of weld repair. This seems awfully high to me...any thoughts on average cost of weld repairs? Has anyone else experienced this with X-Press boats? I bought a welded aluminum boat thinking it would be resistant to damage but am begining to wonder if this is true.


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   Xpress from Tim (68.53.163.52)  4/23/2006 10:46:00 PM
 What year boatw is it.


   The last time I had anything welded the rate was $60 an hour plus material. from The perchjerker  4/23/2006 11:09:00 PM
 Sounds high to me too.I'd call around check other shops.


   Xpress from Fitz (192.100.104.18)  4/24/2006 9:36:00 AM
 The boat is a 1999 and has had some previous weld repairs. I'm not sure if this is typical of Xpress or if I just got a bad one, or if the previous owners beat the heck out of it. Unfortunately for me, the hull warranty is only for 5 years and for the original owner...so I've been told.


   metal boats from dlove  4/24/2006 10:47:00 AM
 I have preached over and over about metal boats. they can not take the abuse of slapping waves at high speeds. everyone argues that they are great and will last forever. (if you believe that, good for you.)

get a metal coathanger out of your closet and bend it in the same place 10,000 times. what happened?

any welding shop can weld your cracks. it should cost $45-$60 an hour. the problem is: your hull is cracked probably right beside the stringer or keel. this is where the metal bends. (try the coathanger with vise grips locked down in the middle) a bead over the crack will crack again. metal patches may be a better idea.

the best idea is to get a boat made out of a material that works for high speed boats. glass

good luck,

dan

I feel your pain. I've been there.


   Me too, Dlove from Remington 1187  4/24/2006 12:10:00 PM
 I had a 93 Basstracker bote. Some of the rivets cracked, and the side of the bote (where the metal comes up from the bottom to form the sides) cracked along the bend. I had to totally hull out the boat before the repair shop would weld. They were scared of setting the boat on fire. (foam)

They tried to tell me that welding would only temp fix the leaking. Said when it starts cracking again, it would be close to where they welded in the first place. I spent 120 bucks getting the welding done, then another 200bucks on carpet, rivets,, etc to put it all back together.

The boat still leaked, but not as bad. I sold it shortly thereafter. The guy told me that hauling an aluminum bote on the trailer was the worst thing you can do to an al. boat.


   Xpress Boat from Basstamer (68.231.39.61)  4/25/2006 3:58:00 AM
  get a metal coathanger out of your closet and bend it in the same place 10,000 times. what happened? WHAT!!!!

dlove have you ever Owned an Aluminum Boat? An Xpress Boat?

I have owned an Xpress X21, best Aluminum Boat built period. Beat the Heck out of Anything (Glass or Aluminum)and it is liable to brake no matter who makes it.

Unfortunately for you someone did not take very good care of this boat. Get a hold of Don Collins at Xpress Boats. dcollins@xpressboats.com He should be able to put you in the right direction.

Go to http://bbcboards.zeroforum.com/Xpress Boats and Ask around!


   I have to agree with my bud dlove....... from Spotted Bass (208.63.124.4)  4/25/2006 8:37:00 AM
 tin boats are fine for quieter and smaller waters,... been there, done that with a tin boat. Glass is the only way to go for big impoundments and heavy waves. Good Luck with your Xpress.

SB


   basstamer from dlove  4/25/2006 10:25:00 AM
 yes I have owned a metal boat. I had a 95 fisher hawk 3V. the hull cracked at almost every welded seam where the metal hit the waves. the hull never hit anything but water.

how long did you own your express? was it 6 or 7 years old?

did you run it in big waves?

fiberglass is supposed to flex. metal is not. find a 10 year old metal boat that has been run hard on a big lake and I'll show you a crack in the hull. (or at least a weld bead)

what is it the former owner of this express did to crack a hull? didn't keep it clean? fished in stumps? ran it in rough water? what makes a metal hull crack other than stress? if you have hull problems, can metal be repaired like glass? NO!

I'm not downing your baby. you can be a fan of metal all you want. however, I would advise selling them before they are 5 years old if you run rough water.

just my opinion

dan


   dlove from Basstamer (68.231.39.61)  4/25/2006 3:04:00 PM
 dlove, I had the boat for 4 years until some ahole ran into the side of it at the Ramp. Boat still looked new. Insurance did not want to pay for repairs, total hull. Big waves yeah! In AZ we have monsoons that come up fast and create a mess on the water along with some very oversized pleasure boats. I have punched a few waves, I have had the boat in the air a few time as well. I bought the boat for about 10k less than it would cost for a simular glass rig. Had no troubles with boat at all. Fast, Dependable and Fished really well. I am currently looking at a BULLET boat, Yeah I know its Glass! Speed!!!! I like to go Fast. Question is ? Would I own another Aluminum Boat (Xpress) Yes in a heart beat! Newer I think 05 they changed the Hull design to include a lower strakes, widen the pad a few inches,Wider Hull, More bracing in the Transome (for the 4 stokes / DFI motors. Can't compair it to the 99' that is cracked! Way better boat now!

Good Fish'n


   Xpress from Jeff Foster (71.29.121.209)  4/27/2006 3:40:00 PM
 "how long did you own your express? was it 6 or 7 years old?

did you run it in big waves?"

I'll take this one. I've owned my 2000 X70 almost 6 years to the day. It's been rode hard and put up wet. The first 4 years of its life were spent on the TN River (upper Kentucky Lake). Except for the ocean or the Great Lakes you don't get a whole lot rougher. It's hit many, many big waves and has been airborne more times than I care to remember. It's also bumped up against more than its share of stumps and big rocks. That hull is still just as solid as it was the day I got it as far as I can tell. No cracks, no broken welds, no visible damage at all save for a few scratches. BTW: What do you think they build warships out of? Fiberglass?


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