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    DI 2 strokes for saltwater?
from Ty (216.213.209.132)  
1/11/2008 2:06:00 PM

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 Curious. Why is it the common trend for 4 strokes to be on saltwater rigs and DI engines for freshwater applications? I know this is not always the case but it just seems that everytime i see a website for inshore or offshore rigs, all the boats have 4 stroke motors, and on most bass boat websites the boats are rigged with 2stroke carb and DI motors with only a few rigged with 4 stroke outboards. 4 stroke more reliable when your 15 miles out offshore in the ocean?


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   just had this conversation from MikeF  1/11/2008 2:19:00 PM
 I recently purchased a saltwater boat, it had 4 strokes of course, but I was talking to the dealer about that exact situation. I'm sure it's more perception than anything else but he said that's it's to the point now where it's almost impossible for them to sell a multiple outboard boat unless the engines are 4S and it's getting harder on the single engine boats. Everyone expects the engines to be 4S.

It's just the opposite on bassboats; everyone expects the engine to be a 2S.

So unless you plan on never having to sell the boat you need to go with the flow whether its right or not.


   Do i need to change my mind? from Ty (216.213.209.132)  1/11/2008 2:36:00 PM
 Do i need to change my mind? I have been looking at every bass boat for under $20k on the market and im kind of leaning towards aluminum. The best deal and performance boat i can find for my money is the H17 Xpress bass boat. Its a 17ft boat rated at max 115 hp. Xpress is a Yamaha only dealer, and i was going to go with the fourstroke 115 Yamaha because Yamaha doesnt carry a DI in the 115 hp category. I will probably hold on to this boat untill its paid off but it prolly wont be my only purchase. Are you saying it would be hard to sell because having a 4 stroke?


   no I was not from MikeF  1/11/2008 2:58:00 PM
 Actually when I was refering to bassboats I was specifically speaking about the 20' and above tournament style bassboats. But do not make your decision based only on my opinion.


   Another opinion from Jeff S (68.55.166.171)  1/11/2008 9:32:00 PM
 Up this way (Chesapeake Bay) there are a lot of boats in the 14'-18' range with 4 strokes. I realize it's a long way to Texas from here but they seem to prefer them. Good luck.


   It is because from saltwaterman (67.35.26.175)  1/11/2008 10:16:00 PM
 the two strokers have not experienced the joy yet of a four stroke. I have got to admit, I was always wondering why the hoopla from the four stroke people. Then I got one. It is not something that can be talked about. It has to be experienced to be understood. Yam has introduced a Sport Model F225, partially for the bass boat crowd. I expect once this motor starts hitting the bass boat trail the formally two strokers will move over to the four stroke camp.


   Also... from SurFishaLot (4.152.231.143)  1/11/2008 11:10:00 PM
 the saltwater crowd tends to do a lot of trolling with their engine(s). The 4-stroke rules in this game. No fouling plugs from running extended periods at low speeds and no 2-stroke exhaust fumes being blown into the cockpit...

Oh. yeah... and there's the small of issue of the 250+ gallon fuel tanks that get emptied/refilled every day on some of these rigs. These guys can burn some fuel. The open ocean is rarely flat enough to run wide open. Economy is more important than speed to MOST of these guys.

I'm glad to see the improved selection of short shaft 4-strokes for bassers and inshore salties. If these choices had been available 4 years ago, I would have been making decisions.

Ty: I think you'll be perfectly happy with a 4-S 115 on that rig... You'll also have more room in the mechanical space without an oil tank in there.


   Ty.... from Toonafish  1/12/2008 11:25:00 AM
 I just traded a 17' tin boat with a 2004 Yamaha F115 on it. The engine purred like a kitten, was smooth as silk and it would take FOREVER to burn a tank of gas.

The boat ended up being a little smaller than I really needed for the water I fish, but if I ever buy new, it would probably be a 18-19 foot bass boat with either a Yamaha or Merc 4 stroke on it. I like the new Merc 200 4 cylinder Verado.

Think about the reasons most 2 stroke DI's engines blow and you'll understand why the 4 strokes are more reliable. The 2 strokes are still #1 on the top end speed.

toona


   Thanks from Ty (216.213.209.132)  1/12/2008 1:12:00 PM
 Thanks for the info guys, cause i really like the way this boat looks and i have heard from many owners in the www.bassboatcentral.com forums that Xpress boats are great and the owners really have no gripes about them. I like the thought of having a 4 stroke just for the fact that i dont want to have to buy the 2 stroke oil. I heard its not cheap.


   Bigger saltwater boats can also from Gene  1/14/2008 10:05:00 AM
 handle the extra weight of the 4 stroke, better than some bass boats. And like above said, saltwater boats usually are not so interested in speed.


   Four Stroke on Bass Boat from Charlie (70.108.64.163)  1/14/2008 8:20:00 PM
 Ty:

I have been running a 17'8" fiberglass bass boat for seven years with a Yamaha 115 hp four stroke. I figure that I have saved at least $1,000 over that period of time on fuel, oil and maintenance. I can fish for three days without putting gas in the tank and then it only takes 12 gallons or less. The boat runs 50 mph with a full tournament load and I can talk with my partner in a normal tone of voice while running wide open. No vibration, no smoke, very little noise. What's not to like?

Get the four stroke and don't look back.

Charlie.......


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