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    Gasoline brands with Ethanol
from Spnb8  
4/12/2008 10:34:10 PM

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 Based on previous advice I avoid putting gas containing ethanol through my 225 EFI. Some time ago someone posted the names of gasoline brands that do not contain Ethanol and I seem to recall that Chevron was one of the 'approved' brands. Yesterday I went to fill the boat and noticed my local Chevron pumps were posted with "All grades contain Ethanol". Does anyone know of a source where I can find out which gasoline brands do not contain Ethanol and are safe to run in an outboard? Thanks.


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   Ethanol from Smokin Joe  4/13/2008 5:08:19 AM
 Spnb8, I think I remember the federal government mandated several months ago,that all brands of gasoline contain at least 10% ethanol. I noticed even the Kangaroo that I filled my wife's car with Thursday,in B-ham, had the "Contains 10% Ethanol" sticker on the pump!


The feds in their infinite wisdom probably didn't mandate the stickers but stations probably have decided to cover their arses from liability!!


Smoke


   Inevitable! from C. #10370  4/13/2008 6:01:04 AM
 Ethanol is not a brand issue!


Some time ago all the stations in the DFW area were required to sell 10% ethanol blends. When that happened I started making sure I filled the boat tanks in east Texas where they still sold the non-blends.


Last trip to Fork, when I stopped to fill up in Emory; behold, the pumps were all labelled 10% ethanol!


No choice now but to use the ethanol blend in my outboard!


Be advised, when you come to Texas for the Rally, you'll probably have to get the ethanol blend as well!


C.


   I was under the impression from Dannyp #10341  4/13/2008 9:09:35 AM
 That 10% was ok but any more than that would do the damage?


   Thanks, Guys........ from Spnb8  4/13/2008 10:41:10 AM
 .....will adding products such as SeaFoam or StaBil help counteract the effects of Ethanol?


   Steve from C. #10370  4/13/2008 1:11:04 PM
 Not an expert, but from all I've been able to find, the most important thing will be to keep the gasoline fresh - don't let it set up for several weeks then try to use it! Mercury says their motors will handle a little ethanol (don't remember wether they said 10% or 15%) with no problems.


I'm doubt that SeaFoam or Stabil does anything about the Ethanol, but they surely couldn't hurt and I've been adding SeaFoam to my tank (1 oz. per gallon) for some time.


If the boat has to set up for some weeks, probably best to drain the "old" gas and use that in the lawn mower and out new gas in the boat's tank.


Just hope we don't get stuck with the E-85 (85% ethanol) as our only available fuel!


C.


   Additives from Wayne P.  4/13/2008 4:12:18 PM
  This product will take care of your concerns:


http://www.goldeagle.com/sta-bil/stabil_marine.htm

   Stay Tuned! from C. #10370  4/13/2008 5:21:13 PM
 I've never seen the "Marine" Stabil in this area although I'm sure it could be ordered via the Internet. However before switching over to it, I contacted SeaFoam and asked about SeaFoam use versus the ethanol blend fuels we are now forced to use.


Hopefully they'll respond and if so the response should be interesting!


I'll post an update when/if I get their response.


   Corn is Good! from Rangerman  4/13/2008 7:36:07 PM
 ON Cob's, and in Jug's. Gov-Co B.S. Running like crap,20% cheaper, 20% + less fuel mileage. Who's Brother in Law is doing the deal. It does not work. Give me a Break. Gov. Co. BS. Wish Cotton was a Monkey, and I had a Corn Field!


   Ranger, explain???? In good English from humminbird #11206  4/13/2008 9:13:08 PM
 Hummer


   Marine Stabil from Cougarcat  4/13/2008 9:44:57 PM
 I saw the Marine Stabil at the new boat place on Hwy 72 in Madison. I noted it for next time I need to buy some. I forgot the name, Boater's World maybe. Call me and I'll tell you about where it's located.


   Looks like we're getting somewhere. from Spnb8  4/13/2008 11:32:37 PM
 Looks like this marine Stabil may be the answer - albeit an expensive one.
Ricky: I've been to the new Boater's World several times already (and spent too much). I'll look for the Stabil next time I'm out there. BTW: Lunker, our rally computer 'guru' works out there part time. I guess retirement got boring (and he needs money for his new Triton).
Charles: I'll be looking forward to whatever answer SeaFoam gives you. If you can't find any of the marine Stabil in your area, let me know and I'll bring down whatever quantity you may want.


   Explain in English? from Rangerman  4/14/2008 7:35:15 AM
 Corn used to put in gas is goverment pork barrel to help the corn farmers.Total waste of my tax dollars to bill plants to process. The E85 gets less mileage, is a killer in an outboards. Money better spent drilling for our own oil. Now to the chase corn is better used cooked on the cob,(boiled in water for the Northern People or steamed) understand, or distilled and put in mason jars. Thus keeping the price of food down. Understand now. If not come on by and I will let you taste a little corn in a jar done the right way, not in gas. Yes and it will burn. See I am tring to help by keeping the price of food down, and outboards running.


   Start running Star Brite Star Tron Gasoline Additive from Gerry, BFHP  4/14/2008 7:42:24 AM
 My mechanic recommended it because he is seeing a long of engines get gunked up by the increased ethanol in the gas supply. Star Tron is supposed to better then Stabil for preventing it from going bad.


I've started running it in my little engine I use on the resevoir and noticed a big difference in power during the first tank full.

Gerry is the creator and editor of the Bass Fishing Home Page. He frequently fishs the Virginia's Occoquan Resevoir and Potomac River.

   I use the StarBrite from MikeF  4/14/2008 2:57:33 PM
 I use the same stuff as Gerry. The last time I bought stabilizer it was the only one that treated fuel containing ethanol. There may be others now but I couldn't find any last fall.


    Try BP non oxy premium from johnny lightning #11879  4/15/2008 1:13:36 AM
 I like the non oxy premium at my local BP supplier formally amoco.No alcohol in it at all. Its pump is purple and it's labeled off road use only.I've used it for years with good results.Last year I thought I'd try 87 and my motor had vapor lock issues do to ethanol.Drained the remainder out poured it in my truck then put 42 gallons of fresh non oxy premium in than she ran fine.(95 faststrike)


   ALL gasoline nationwide has ethanol in it. from StevieP  4/15/2008 9:41:51 AM
 The newer StaBil (don't need to search out the Marine stuff) will help.


Startron will help.


SeaFoam will help.


Pick up any one of the three, and add it to your fuel, and you'll be fine. Fresher is better for sure.


   nope from RobShaw  4/15/2008 12:20:38 PM
 We have counties here in Va that are still ethanol free. I buy all my boat gas in Isle of Wight County.


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