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    The 400.00 cast
from Harumph #11038 #11038  
5/15/2012 4:25:27 PM


 So I am sitting in 22' of water. Making some long casts with the deep crankin rig.

Sprained my thumb playing volleyball so the grip just isn't where it should be.

Shimano Curado 5:5:1 reel, St Croix rod, 10lb floro.

Go to make a long cast and *SNAP*, lure breaks off immediately. Rod flies out of my hand hitting the front deck.

Bounces into the water. I drop down to grab the rig and just tick it with my finger. Immediately grabbed another rod and was unable to snag it on the way down.

Spent about 20 minutes trying to drag the bottom and snag it with no luck. Those zebra muscles make draggin the bottom kinda tough:)

So I am looking to replace my rig. Looking for suggestions from those in the know.

If you were going to setup the ideal deep crankin rig what would you choose for rod and reel?

$300 - $800 would be my price window I would be lookin at.


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   Lost rod/reel/etc from 521vxnascar  5/15/2012 8:43:02 PM
Don't feel bad. It happened to me last year. Sitting in 60' of water casting a 5" Lake Fork Jigging spoon trying to catch a bass or rockfish. Turn to the back of the boat to speak to wife and , BAMM, complete rig jerked out of my hand and as i turned to look it looked like one of those torpedos fired from a sub in the old black and white movies, air bubbles trailing behind it. The reel was a KVD $400 on a $150 rod. Started to dive in but it was gone in a flash and i would have lost my $700 glasses also by diving in. If you have some spare time, they have these giant treble hooks at Wal-Mart for about $5 for a 3-4 pacl (EAGLE CLAW). Put you some 2-3 oz salt water weights on it and troll around the spot. Use some ROPE so if you get hung up you can at least give it a great tug before you cut it loose. If you know a scuba diver it might be good to give him a call. Even worse, about 8 years ago lost 5 rigs all at one time running back to ramp for weigh-in and hit a wave that threw open the rod box (which was not latched properly) and the velcro rod savers were over powered and released sending them all out. There were 3-5 foot swells and was in 40-50 of water and tornado with-in sight----never slowed up, kept on gettin' till i was at the ramp. Even that long ago, those 5 rigs were about $1250 back then. Got very sick on the way home even though i won the tourney. Good luck on finding them----

   I guess I've lost 4 from Randy B  5/15/2012 9:01:55 PM
One was sitting on the top of a bimini top where I set it to avoid any family stepping on it. When I went onto plane, it bounced once on the back deck and just kept going.

Another was in a rod holder with a large spook dangling from the end (stupid). Just running the lake, I noticed it was gone. I guess the weight of that spook worked it out of the holder and overboard.

Two more belonged to my friend. We were fishing a river and I said I was going to move the boat. I sat down at the console assuming that he had secured himself and his stuff. He assumed I was just going to idle to another spot. I throttled up and he yelled, almost falling off the rear seat. (I thought he had sat on a rear bench in the fish and ski, but he was still sitting in the fishing seat). He lost two rods while trying to save himself.

Alas, it happens.

   It was only about a $200 combo, but from 710brownfish #17012  5/15/2012 9:26:57 PM
we were fishing one day and my oldest daughter (who was only about 4 or 5 years old then) just picked it up and threw it in.

   Watched a brand new Chronarch and St. Croix combo from Spinny  5/16/2012 8:32:08 AM
go to the deep behind a hybrid striper, once, at Amistad.

Made me sick watching that thing go and go and go, in gin clear water. LOL

   I was thinking from Harumph #11038 #11038  5/16/2012 8:42:27 AM
Thanks for sharing in my misery:)

Shimano Calais 5:0:1 for the reel.

Still up in the air on the rod.

The rod I had was great. Bought off the rack on a whim. Sure wish I had made a note of what model/type it was.

   Gps? from FontanaFinesseMan  5/16/2012 3:05:05 PM
Did you gps the place where you lost it. If so if you have any buddies with a aqua view, drop it down and see if you see it then use a old time fish stringer with hooks open, weighted down and drag it along the bottom.

   I have two cameras from Randy B  5/16/2012 10:08:40 PM
and live in Michigan. Where are you? My son is working at the point for the summer, so maybe we could get out there.

Certainly the reel could be disassembled and would be fine.

If water got inside the rod, I wonder what would happen. You could find out what model it is at least.

   Haven't lost one yet from dontr20x #17419 #17419  5/16/2012 10:20:48 PM
although I've come close a few times. But I have snagged and retrieved 2 rigs in my time. One Daiwa baitcast rod and reel about 15 years ago(hadn't been in water too long and was able to clean and lubricate it- still use it today occasionally) and one spinning reel and rod that was too far gone to salvage. I bet the Alabama rig will cause many lost rods as folks casting them backlash midcast and they jerk the rod from their hands. I've almost done that.

   Had I had an aqua view on board at the time I am sure I could have gotten it back from Harumph #11038 #11038  5/17/2012 8:01:22 AM
Given the water currents in that area and how lake Erie weather in general tends to get freaky I am sure it is long gone by now.

No worries.

So I am locked in on the Shimano Calais 5:0:1 for the reel.

Just need some suggestions on the rod. Would prefer at least 7' up to 7'10".

I will be throwing mainly Series 5 and larger. DD22s and such.

The only real issue I had with the last rod was that if the fish wasn't at least 2.5lbs I wouldn't know he was on until he surfaced:) It had a really fast tip and would launch the bait a mile.

   I went with from Harumph #11038 #11038  5/17/2012 9:45:09 AM
Shimano® Calais® Baitcast 5:0:1

Quantum® Tour KVD Crankin’ 7'10" Med Hvy

Bought the rod on a suggestion from a friend. Hope it works out, will report back my findings if anyone cares to know.

   St Croix Casting Rod from Cougarcat  5/17/2012 11:15:50 PM
The St Croix Casting Rod is the 7' Medium Heavy Moderate. Not a fast tip but casts well. I like the moderate better with a crank bait when you have a fish on. Use more of the whole rod and not just the tip.

By the way I hate extra fast rods I think they cost me fish.

   As I promised, my report from Harumph #11038 #11038  5/29/2012 9:30:20 AM
The reel:
Awesome as I figured it would be. Didn't do a ton of deep cranking other than to just see how the reel worked out. It performed beyond my expectations.

The Rod:
This thing is a beast. Not sure I wouldn't have been better of with the Medium but time will tell.

I did use this rod/reel combo for some tube fishing. I actually broke a hook in half on a rock on a hook set. It handled 3 - 6lbs smallies like a champ. Was great for picking up line on hook sets while dragging.

I mentioned about the previous rod not being able to feel the fish unless it was at least 2.5lbs. Unfortunately I didn't catch anything under 3 on this trip with the setup so I will have to wait to see what a smaller fish feels like on the rig.

Over all I would say it is a better than average setup. Will have to spend some more time doing the deep cranking thing before I make a final decision on the rod.

   A diiferent cast from freeline #14113 #14113  6/22/2012 8:15:37 PM
This is a different take on your lost tackle theme. We were fishing in 12 ft of water. Casting plastic and froggies for bass. I heard a splash and turned around and saw the top of a person's head going down. I looked at my friend Tony and he looked back.
We were making up excuses for the police about how we lost a guy overboard. No ,he didn't owe us money. No, we weren't sleeping w/ his wife.
Then he pops back up holding a rod. " I dropped the rod and didn't know what to do so I jumped in ".
Apparently, he's had the urge to retrieve cameras and fishing equipment before but hesitated. This time he went.
We still talk about this one in awe, as in " Would you go in ?" The answer is no.

So, Sam, empties his pockets... wallet, blackberry ( ruined ) and cash. But we got him back.

   Let me tell ya freeline from Harumph #11038 #11038  6/23/2012 7:45:21 AM
I always make sure my phone and wallet are in dry storage in the event I fall in.

Had the water not been 54 degrees and air temp around 50 I would have jump in without hesitation to grab it.

Funny story though:)



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