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    Deep hooked fish on plastics
from dougward53 #21490  
7/16/2012 9:28:45 PM


 I am having aproblem this year with deep hooked fish
Using same setup as alway 4/O gammy wide gap with 15 lb fluro and 6" lizard or MagII Zoom worm.Getting older so i maybe getting to slow on the hook set.Tryed 3/O wide gap which seemed to help.Anyone else having this problem.I have fished plastics for year on T-rig without his problem
Dont like hurting fish or buying a new pack of hooks everytime i going fishing.Any suggestion would be helpful
The hook is alway down the fishs throat.Thanks

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   Doug from Ralph Manns  7/16/2012 10:45:28 PM
 I use Owner cross-point extra wide gap 3/0s (finesse size baits). I occasionally throat-hook bass if I'm slow on the strike detection. However, I don't think I harm many bass, although a hook deep in the gut and not removed is a delayed mortality killer. As I only fish with barbless worm hooks, I find it very easy to reverse and remove these deep hooks with needle-nose pliers through the gills slit. When I last checked, there was an example on the In-Fisherman web site.

I find I don't lose many bass using barbless hooks. Perhaps a tournament big-money angler might think even one a trip too many, but as I release them all unless I'm taking under 14s home to eat from the neighbor pond (removal helps this fishery that has too many small bass) a lost bass is of little concern to me.

For certain baits fished weightless on the drop (Senkos) that are more likely to be taken undetected, I gave up using wide gaps and switched to a size one Gamakatsu Weedless finesse wide gap. Even if I fail to detect strikes immediately, this small hook almost always still buries in the outer mouth or lip. But with it's very small barb it is easily released if deep via the gill slit.

   Doug, check out this link, this has worked really well for me...... from Jmac #10965 #10965  7/18/2012 5:29:57 PM
  I would say that I can remove 95% of hooks from all gut-hooked fish with little or no problem. The main thing to remember is that you cannot pull the line across the gills or it will cut them and you must pull line over the hook point in order to get it to rotate out correctly. When I gut-hook a fish, I immediately cut the line at about 24 inches and pull off the plastic lure, then reach up from the bottom of the fish and through the gills on the hook point side with my needlenose pliers, then grab the line and pull it downward and across the hook point. This will cause the hook to rotate about 180 degrees and then you can reach in the fish's mouth from the top with pliers and pop the hook right out. Some guys can do it with pliers and no line, but I prefer grabbing the line. Do a google search for more info. Hope this helps.

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Edited 7/18/2012 5:31:50 PM

   The Florida page from Ralph Manns  7/18/2012 10:54:56 PM
 A pretty good system. but I also have only two hands so when a taut line is necessary (very deep hook position) I position my rod to put in a little line tension. While I lip the bass with my left hand I enter through the gills.

Bass gills are a lot tougher than they look, provided you don't bend the filaments back in toward the inside. Gills are exposed to everything, all the crud, bass ingest with food, including catfish spines and crawdad pinchers.

I will go behind and between other gill rakers if going through the first opening won't let me easily reach the hook. I'm careful going in not to pull any red gill filaments with the pliers inward, but touching them is not a problem to most bass. Once the pliers grip the shank of the hook (position depends on shank length) simply rotating the pliers releases the hook. My barbless hooks come out most easily with minimal tissue damage. My only worries about released fish health occur if the hook point was down (toward the belly) and the bass bleeds. In such cases the hook point is often close to the heart. A bleeding fish may recover if quickly released as they clot rapidly naturally, but bleeding fish are the most likely to suffer delayed mortality.



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