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    Fall is here (No. TX)
from Ralph Manns  
9/19/2012 9:46:59 PM

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 Today the local marina surface temp hit 78F. This is my first day under 82F this year. The bass seemed to agree. I managed a limit of tournament keepers, three 19", one 18", and one 14" (oops). Lost an about 16". Two hit finesse worms, but 4 went for Rapala TD-10 crankbaits. They were scattered out over the 5-10' flats and humps so I had to work hard, but it was fun after two months of relatively few larger bass.


One big limitation of using a mini for me is that if the marina water gets too warm and the bigger bass move out, I no longer can reach them. It's good to have them back.


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   Good report Ralph. from Wackoman  9/20/2012 9:57:58 AM
 


The bait where I'm front moves into the marinas big time when the water gets fall like cool. The bass are right with them too.


Good luck in the mini!

Edited 9/20/2012 9:58:29 AM


   question for you two and others from Rjr  9/21/2012 2:37:08 PM
 did the bass leave in the warmer water, or did they quit feeding until the bait came back?


   Just my observations from Ralph Manns  9/22/2012 12:04:02 AM
 Some don't leave, but most of the larger ones seem to disappear.


Like most bass anglers I think that I can coax an occasional bite if the bass are in the area I fish. If I'm wrong, perhaps they just stop biting but....


...Warm water forces maximum bodily metabolism. While bass can go a month without eating in winter, they can't go a week in summer without more food to replace the food energy they burn just by swimming and breathing. I think it a good gamble that they simply move to find more food, mainly shad. We had a shad shortage in the marina in August, but I saw numerous small schools on my last trip.


   thanks Ralph from RJR  9/23/2012 3:59:23 PM
 I am sure you are correct on them moving out. I like to hear your analysis's. It is too bad that funding isn't feasible to do some real telemetry work on fish movements everywhere. I fish a small ozark lake (Clearwater Lake) and in the late fall the smallmouth show up like crazy. None are hardly ever caught in the March to Nov 1 time frame. Everyone assumes there is a mass migration from Black River which flows into the lake and is a typical Ozark stream full of smallies. Myself and Ron Kruger are sort of working together to see if there is a migration out of the river. He is a smallmouth river junkie and I like to fish the lake. I'll try to keep you up to date this fall. He'll try to catch them in the river about 5 miles up from the lake around mid Oct. and on. They usually show up in the lake in mid Nov. I'll try the lake in late Oct and on to see when they show. Maybe we learn something, or maybe we will fish a lot! LOL!


   Rjr from Ralph Manns  9/23/2012 10:34:47 PM
 S
ome background info: I'm now out of the scientific info loop as I don't actively pursue every possible report now. However, before I retired there had been well over 50 telemetry studies of bass. Although the first 20-30 only provided positional information, more recent studies, and the one I made way back in the late 1970d, followed bass over the course of several days, seeking more info on daily behaviors. Still most of the results show only the major seasonal moves.


My study was notable in that I found bass tended to stay at the same approximate depth for days even weeks, and that there was little movement up and out from the depths to the shallows. We tracked several bass that moved out into the middle of L. Travis to follow shad and then return to their shoreline home range areas. ( other bass were observed feeding).


John Hope's tracking found lunker bass tended to hold at 10-15 feet while offshore and inactive and then apparently feed from a base depth of about 10 feet by moving inshore and swimming parallel to the 10 foot contour line. the lunkers seemed to chase bluegill up to the surface.


To my knowledge, no one has put tracking devices on shad, so any association of shad with bass movements in based mainly on observations of schooling/feeding and other visual shad indications at the surface or bait ball returns from sonars.


   Smallmouth Migration from derick881 #19465  10/3/2012 8:02:29 AM
 There was research in Wisconsin several years ago on smallmouth migration on the Wolf rive system. The Wolf river starts in northern Wisconsin and runs about 80 miles from the headwaters eventually to Lake Winnebago with a couple of lakes between. They documented an annual migration of smallies from the upper river in the fall to wintering areas in the lakes, some moving over 50 miles in the process.


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