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    Registering an old boat in Texas
from bobabooey #11773  
3/30/2008 3:57:49 PM

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 My father was given an aluminum boat from a co worker years ago. The co worker said it had been in his back yard for years. It only has a couple of numbers on it from a previous registration. My father got a motor for it but is unable to register it. The state will not grant him a registration for the boat because he does not know where it originally came from. We go white bass fishing in rivers and have to paddle the darn thing because the game warden is always there and would give us a ticket if we put a motor on it. (we are trying to pay the government to use our own boat and the government wont let us-your government at work)


My brother in law is going through the same thing with an old jon boat that was given to him by his grandfather. Does anyone have any idea how to get this done?? We have spent hours on the phone trying to register a stupid aluminum boat and can't get anywhere.


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   Hand Made from 5keepers #10346  3/30/2008 4:10:21 PM
 Remove all numbers and names from boat.
Tell them you and your buddies made it.
I feel sure if you knew the people that built it they would be your buddies.
Ask for title application for home built.


   5keepers is bang on... from Grampa Gridleak  3/30/2008 5:07:09 PM
 ...


I tell ya' it's a sad situation when somebody is tryin' to do somethin' the legal way... and it is impossible.


About 15 years ago I had a similar situation here in Texas with a boat trailer. Luckily I had enough snap at the moment to say "Okay... I also have another trailer that I built that I need to get a license for... what form do I need for that?"


The lady just said "Same form, but where it says serial number just write in home made".


Which I did and went home and ground the serial number tag of the thing and that was the end of that.


Sad I tell ya.


Gridleak


   Very Resourceful Grid..... from Mike A from LA  3/30/2008 5:24:08 PM
 
mike


   old boat from DocB #12092  3/30/2008 6:41:31 PM
 Went through the exact same thing years ago in Bama. I am not familliar with laws in Texas, but what I ended up doing was getting my dad to write me out a bill of sale for the old boat, and had no problem after that... Seems that the problem about the registration was more about how much taxes to pay over the transfer of the boat rather than the actual transfer...
Doc


   This should tell you what you need to do from Funky  3/30/2008 11:41:09 PM
  http://www.tpwd.state.tx.us/publications/pwdpubs/media/pwd_lf_a0900_1104.pdf
   Listen up. This is your answer right cheer umkay? from Spooled Again  3/31/2008 7:10:32 AM
 Check the 1st response above from 5Keepers.


You guys know that I am the original Texan in these parts and thus always possess the correct knowledge about practically anything Texan, specially whenst it comes to huntin and fishin and killin skwerrils.


Yours truly did perzackerlee the same dang thing this Alabama feller is askin. The ole lady I dealt with at the TP&W office told me to claim it homemade and she wood take it from thar okey dokey.


SA


Knows stuff


   SA for President! from PPEN  3/31/2008 8:07:05 AM
 Good for you SA. When you think about those folks in the state legislature making our laws it pays to always keep in mind that most of them have very limited lifetime experiences. That doesn't mean they are old... just hain't learned much yet. Bet you and Grid could straighten out the entire Texas state legislature in about three days.


Go get 'em!


PPEN


   I know..I know we could PPen. from Spooled Again  3/31/2008 10:53:06 AM
 Just when I return from this land of low-priced petro will git right on that once I re-register my bote and thin out them dag-blasted skwerrils agin. I jus know they is havin the run of the place and it is almost more than I can stand right now.


SA



   at the same time from MikeF  3/31/2008 1:29:24 PM
 The reason they have these rules in place is for your protection. I know it hardly ever happens but every once in a while someone will mistakenly get a hold of someone else's stuff while forgeting to pay for it and then try and register it as their's.


   I hate politicians who think I need them to protect me from bobabooey #11773  3/31/2008 2:56:04 PM
 I don't need some government official protecting me and holding my hand every time I do anything. I just want to put my motor on my boat. This is a perfect example of big government. A stupid law that hurts the people it is supposed to protect. Does the law get changed? No. It would take 15 years to change something as simple as this. Big government in action.


   wouldn't need it if from MikeF  3/31/2008 3:04:02 PM
 I hate the idea too but more than that I hate people who lie and steal. If we didn't have those kind of people we wouldn't need any laws.


Seems to me your anger is misdirected. I hate that I need a key to start my truck but I don't blame GM.


   do not be confused-it is all about the money from Beartrap  3/31/2008 3:26:47 PM
 preventing people from stealing something might have been what the law was intended to do but now it's all about producing revenue and making sure you can't use a boat without paying a registration fee....catching the bad guys somehow got confused with frustrating the innocent people..and it's like that with almost every govt. agency you have to deal with......the crooks don't have any problem registering stolen boats.....they come up there with fake papers and registration numbers and sail right through....


Beartrap...firm believer in that government which governs least,governs best...


   amen beartrap from bobabooey #11773  3/31/2008 5:14:07 PM
 I think you are missing the point MikeF. You make a valid point IF I get to choose to register my boat. I don't have a problem with it if you want to register your boat in case it gets stolen. What I have a problem with is that the choice is made for me by big government. I have to pay them to do something that I don't want to do in the first place (it is all about money). And the result is typical..some lady that could care less about my boat and my fishing on the phone tells me that I can't use my boat.


The reason that I can't use my motor on my boat is because a politician told me that I can't. The only criminal involved is me...if I use my own boat.


Using your logic...government should start handing out fines to those who leave their GM unlocked. Afterall, they are only protecting you. It is not the governments fault that cars get stolen, it is the criminals.


   not hardly from MikeF  3/31/2008 7:00:56 PM
 But I do love the way that your problem is caused by someone else. It seems like it always is.


You can spin this anyway you want and you can blame anyone you want but the problem is plain and simple. The reason you can't register "your" boat is you can't prove you own it. I'm sure it's someone else's fault that whoever "gave" you that boat didn't provide a bill of sale.


But I'm sure it's not your fault; it never is.


This is like watching Cops on TV and listening to those people repeating "I'm not resisting". It makes you want to tell them; sorry but yes you are. But it wouldn't do any good to tell them; because they just don't get it.


I'm sure you can find plenty of support from people who will tell you how to circumvent the law but that won't change any of the facts or the reason you're having this problem.


But feel free to blame the messenger because I'm sure it's not your fault.


   You are right Mike F from bobabooey #11773  3/31/2008 8:25:26 PM
 As I stated, my bro in law received an old boat from his grandfather- This is somehow my brother in laws fault??? (I was unaware that my bro in law did anything wrong) I am sure my bro in law was excited about getting a boat and i am sure that his grandfather was happy about seeing someone use the boat. Wait until I tell my brother in law that he did something wrong. Thank goodness that government in all of it's wisdom put a stop to this terrible event.


You are right, tomorrow I will go out and sink my father's and brother in laws boat since they are not registered. After all, some 20 year old girl in Austin told us we can't use them.


One question for you though. Why is it o.k. to fish out of the boat with a paddle, but not with a motor? Explain to me how it is right one way but wrong the other?


   Nice backhand return bobabooey! from Grampa Gridleak  3/31/2008 9:51:32 PM
 ...


You hammered that nail down.


Gridleak.


   I wood try to explain da korrect antsir to yore kweshtun babahooey from Spooled Again  3/31/2008 10:42:13 PM
 ..but in sensin da level of yore frustration from deelin wif dis ishew, it seems doubtful that yood be willin to comprehend my explanation.


SA


Like I said urleeur, "knows stuff."


   volley from MikeF  4/1/2008 6:19:25 AM
 Still doesn't change the facts. I can hear it now: "I'm not resisting." LOL


   paddle question from MikeF  4/1/2008 6:48:05 AM
 I have never lived in Texas but around here you are not required to register a boat unless it has a motor so I would assume it's the same there. But when you buy any type of new water vessel you get a MSO and it should change hands with any sale. If the seller doesn't have one I get a bill of sale that meets the state's requirements.


And I wasn't trying to be a jerk about your problem nor make light of it.


If it was me I would call or go down and explain my situation and ask what my options are without ever raising my voice or complaining about the government and their stupid laws. There's aways a legal way to correct a problem.


   Did not work from bobabooey #11773  4/1/2008 2:06:26 PM
 I sent your posts to my father to get the boat registered so we could use it with a motor. He told them it was home made. They informed him that he would have to show them receipts of the materials bought to build the boat. He would then have to pull it 75 miles to the nearest Parks and Wildlife Office to have it inspected to make sure that it is homemade.


What a joke.


   that would have been my guess from MikeF  4/1/2008 4:14:18 PM
 I didn't think the homebuilt thing would work.


Either you or he needs to call or go by and tell them how you got the boat and ask if there's anyway to get it registered. If there's any registration number or serial number they may be able to tell you who is the registered owner of the boat and you should be able to get them to give you a bill of sale.


If not then try this. Have him do a bill of sale to you and then you might be able to register it in Alabama. Then sell it back to him and register it in Texas. This would depend on what the State of Alabama requires to register an out of state boat.


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