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    If you think No 3 Micros are small ...
from Fisherboy #10852 #10852  
5/10/2012 12:43:40 PM

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Check out the No. 1 and 2s:


http://www.mudhole.com/Shop-Our-Catalog/Micro-Guides/CNMG-NanoMicro-Guides-TiChrome


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   Sic from fishsmart #10374 #10374  5/10/2012 2:44:47 PM
 My Kistler LE1 rod has Fuji SIC titanium frame #4 micro guides that are 0.10 inch inside diameter.


Charles


   not the only ones from usmcfish #13780 #13780  5/10/2012 3:02:05 PM
 They sure aren't the only ones. You can get them from Batson and Fuji and I am sure there are others as well.


usmcfish


   HAven't seen No. 1s any where else from Fisherboy #10852 #10852  5/11/2012 7:07:47 AM
 
I've been using No. 3s since they were available.


I don't think fuji makes anything smaller. Batson makes a No. 2, but I will not use their POS guides ... ever.


   available from usmcfish #13780 #13780  5/11/2012 7:27:01 AM
  Check with Anglers Resource you will see they are available if you have the desire to get them. No, not everyone likes the Batsons but they are GREAT people to deal with and I've personally have never had a failure with their guides and I've got about 200 rods out there in use with them. They have a new recessed design that is much stronger and nicer looking than the original micro's they brought to market but like I said, I've not had a failure with the originals.

Edited 5/11/2012 7:29:52 AM


   also from usmcfish #13780 #13780  5/11/2012 7:28:18 AM
 Just remembered you can check with the NERBS guy Billy Vivona and he can special order the super tiny ones for you direct from Japan


   Stupid if you ask me from minner  5/11/2012 9:46:09 AM
 I'd charge someone double just to tie these little bastards on. Hell you couldn't get but about three loops of "A" on the foot of one.


   Minner is right from Bender, MS Gulf Coast  5/12/2012 12:36:54 AM
 Just how small do you need to go until there becomes a line friction problem and getting the darn things to stay on long enough to get finish on them.


My thick fingers cannot hold even a #3 steady enough to set on the rod. Heck, I don't even like a simple #6 for that matter.


   tiny from usmcfish #13780 #13780  5/14/2012 10:35:50 AM
 To be honest with you once you get used to working with them it really isn't too bad. I haven't had any issues with the 2.0's that I've wrapped. The only issues were on very thin tipped rods 4mm and below (get a little more tricky to wrap)


   NOW, if someone would just come out with from Bender, MS Gulf Coast  5/15/2012 7:31:18 PM
 Some AAA Thread for them, LOL. What can you get? Your Knot, Three Wraps and then your knot or do you just hand wrap it like a trim band. LOL


   wraps from usmcfish #13780 #13780  5/16/2012 11:43:57 AM
 I will wrap a couple up tonight and see how many wraps I get on one I want to say it is something like 10-12 if I recally correctly. Yes, I do hand wrap everything that I do. ( I don't do large volumes anyhow)


   Micro guides... from George Roth #13563 #13563  6/24/2012 8:33:18 PM
 I haven't been building many rods over the last couple of years due to home remodeling, my primary job, back surgery last week, (#3) etc but will answer your question to the best of my ability.


When wrapping smaller guides, you need smaller thread. I used Gudebrod "OOO" for some micro-guides and it worked quite well. They have since gone out of business. If you order your guides from a company that also sells fly-tying supplies, they should be able to hook you up with a compatible nylon thread to apply the guides with. you will just need to back your tension off a bit, but should be able to lock your wraps without any difficulty.


Hope that helps....George


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