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    Connie - I have a question
from Jeff Hahn  
6/28/2012 2:41:43 PM

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 Connie: What do you use to remove the spool pin on the old Shimano reels in order to get to the spool bearing? I have seen a couple different types of specialty pliers, but these run like $30-$40 each. Is there something cheaper and just as effective? I have managed to remove the pins on my older Shimano reels by hand using a small punch or nail, but my son bought me a new Lew's reel for Father's Day and it has the same spool bearing on the spool shaft behind a pin. So, I hate to screw-up and damage the pin in this new reel...thought I'd ask for your expertise!


Thanks!


Jeff Hahn


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   Jeff... from Funky  6/28/2012 11:51:51 PM
 

Tommy holds the spool in his palm, holds small pin punch with his thumb and finger and taps it out with a hammer. I've done it that way, but it just isn't comfortable for me and my fat fingers. And like you, I'm afraid I'll bend a spool shaft. Jim Johns had an article on his website showing how to take a pair of small flat-nose pliers and drill a hole thru one side... that's what I currently use. These are Craftsman pliers and the jaws are not serrated, so they won't mar the shaft. I know some use a pair of Channel-Locks. I think that's what Bender does. Maybe he drop in and comment.


   yep, that's what we do. from Lake Fork Tackle Repair  6/29/2012 7:16:14 AM
 We've never ever bent a pin by holding in hand. Works everytime. I started out by putting tape on table vice and holding spool in vice to help secure spool and then moved up to holding the spool and tapping pin. I was very very careful, slowly tap. the cost of the spool remained on my mind if I bent the pin. haha.

Lake Fork Tackle Repair The best little repair shop in Texas! 428 PR 5936, Yantis, Tx 75497 Canada Outdoors 2005 Fishing Special Edition has given us their "Special Honour-Best video of the year award. Our video now is in IGFA Musuem and Library in Florida. Specializing in Shimano Reels Only Rod and Reel Repair Training School Come learn the business and you'll make lots of money.:) www.lakeforktacklerepair.com 903-383-2120

   I am a little different from Bender, MS Gulf Coast  6/29/2012 12:47:08 PM
 I use a small set of Channel Locks. If you look at them when closed the lower jaw extends in front of the top jaw, I place the top jaw just inboard of the pin on the shaft and the bottom jaw on the pin and then squeeze. The pin slides smoothly up to where it is flush. I then lay the spool on a towels and with a punch gently tap the pin the rest of the way through. I bought a stainless dental tool and cut the hook off it to make my punch. It is a perfect size to tap out the pin. Usually only one tap and the pin falls onto the towel. Then reverse the process less the punch. It is not needed. I have never bent a pin like this nor scarred the shaft or bent the spool.


   Thanks all from Jeff Hahn  6/29/2012 7:16:01 PM
 Funky: Aren't those pliers case hardened stainless? I would think they'd be a bear to drill. One of the reel repair guys on another bass fishing site sells a pair of pliers made to do just what those are. But, as $35 a pop, I thought I would see what you experts do.


Connie: I've been doing the same thing you do, but was always fearful of bending or scaring the pin.


Bender: I don't know if I have the courage to use Channel Locks for fear of scaring the spool shaft. I do have a set of small, non-serrated pliers that I might try. The dental tool deal is a great idea. I got some old broken dental tools from my dentist years ago...the double ended ones that had one end broken. I bet I could cut and file the broken end smooth and use it as a punch. that would sure beat using the small nail that I do now.


Thanks for all your help!


Jeff Hahn


   Not hard to drill... from Funky  6/29/2012 9:20:14 PM
 at least with a press. Getting the dimple the right depth is the hard part. I see the ones Smooth Drag is selling and have been thinking about a set. On some reels the pin is so close to the spool it's hard to get my pliers on them. For a punch, I took a nail set, put it in my drill press and turn it down to .055... works fine.


   Well, I busted the &*#*^ pin on my new Lew's! from Jeff Hahn  6/29/2012 11:13:46 PM
 I decided to give it a go and, using my non-serrated needle nose pliers pushed the pin flush with the spool shaft on one end. I tried several methods to get the pin the rest of the way out and finally gave up. So, I took the pliers to push the pin back through the spool like it was...and broke one end off the pin. DAMN IT! Unlike the Shimano pins, the Lew's pins are thicker in the middle than on the ends that stick out to grab the pinion gear. Looks like I now need to buy a set of those pliers to get the broken pin out. I'll ask Lew's how they get the pins out when I call to order a new pin on Monday.


The spool shaft bearing is not spinning very freely and looks like it has some grease that got inside. Looks like I'd have been better off taking all the line off and soaking the whole spool in lighter fluid!


Funky - I found the link for those pliers from Smooth Drag...they're out of stock!


Jeff Hahn
"Mr. Fix it"


   Ordered a set of pliers from Jeff Hahn  6/30/2012 1:02:19 PM
  I ordered a set of Boca Spool pin pliers. Here's a link...they look pretty slick!


http://web.me.com/jamesharpel/TH_Reel_Tuning_and_Cleaning/Boca_Spool_Pin_Pliers.html


Jeff
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   Boca Pliers from g2072  6/30/2012 2:33:12 PM
 I have a set of the Boca pliers. When it finally pushes the pin out I'm scared to death it's going to break the tab that pushes the pin out. It really is violent when the pin finally lets go. I haven't done may but I'm worried about the longevity. It really does make the pin removal a lot simpler though.


   pin pusher from OhRichie #12699 #12699  7/1/2012 11:07:52 AM
 Japan Tackle has a pin pusher that's the cat's meow.


   Jeff, Jeff, Jeff from Bender, MS Gulf Coast  7/1/2012 5:11:38 PM
 Lews? That pin is exactly like a Revo or a Pflueger. It is a little thinner on the ends but you should have been able to poke it right out. Why are you on the Dark side anyhow? You do know that the only resemblance to the old Lews is the Name and the handle grips, don't you.


   Yes, I know from Jeff Hahn  7/1/2012 5:49:31 PM
 Yes, I know...really no resemblance to my old Lews. But, my son bought if for me for Father's day. Yes, I thought I should be able to push it right back to where it was...SNAP! I can see accidentally bending one, but the pin should not snap off like that! Pin pliers will be in the mail to me tomorrow and in the morning I'll call Lew's and order 3 new pins...just to be safe, and the reel will be back to new in a week or so.


Jeff Hahn


   Good luck Jeff from Bender, MS Gulf Coast  7/1/2012 6:16:38 PM
 Getting them to send that. Probably not going to happen. I will dig and see if I can come up with an old Pflueger for you in my junk box. A BPS, Pflueger or Revo pin will fit it.


   Really? from Jeff Hahn  7/1/2012 7:39:38 PM
 Really, they don't sell parts? If they don't have parts or or not selling the spool pins, they are going to get an EAR FULL from me...especially how much I love my Shimanos and how much time I spend on fishing sites on the internet. I can't even imagine such a thing.


Jeff Hahn


   go get'em Jeff from Lake Fork Tackle Repair  7/2/2012 8:51:30 AM
 good luck with that! like i said before, kinda a nail biter time hoping i never broke a spoolpin, I hope you able to do something, while at it, I am sure i not the only dealer that has relayed the same info to them. While at it, tell them to bring back the old curado greenies, we still getting calls......Reminds me of marking on the ballot "no" to the obama care and by golly, no listen, it went thru anyway regardless of how Americans overall feel about it. Reel companies have selective hearing too I think. LOL.But, one positive here for you, finally moving on from the lews.:)

Lake Fork Tackle Repair The best little repair shop in Texas! 428 PR 5936, Yantis, Tx 75497 Canada Outdoors 2005 Fishing Special Edition has given us their "Special Honour-Best video of the year award. Our video now is in IGFA Musuem and Library in Florida. Specializing in Shimano Reels Only Rod and Reel Repair Training School Come learn the business and you'll make lots of money.:) www.lakeforktacklerepair.com 903-383-2120

   Bender - no problem from Jeff Hahn  7/2/2012 9:11:16 AM
  Bender: I called and talked to Amber. She's shipping 3 pins in the mail to me today. No problem - and free, to boot!


Jeff Hahn

Edited 7/2/2012 11:52:21 AM


   good for you Jeff from Lake Fork Tackle Repair  7/2/2012 10:43:55 AM
 thanks for the latest info. about pins. Good to know. customer service stepped up to the plate and took care of a good customer. Just great news.

Lake Fork Tackle Repair The best little repair shop in Texas! 428 PR 5936, Yantis, Tx 75497 Canada Outdoors 2005 Fishing Special Edition has given us their "Special Honour-Best video of the year award. Our video now is in IGFA Musuem and Library in Florida. Specializing in Shimano Reels Only Rod and Reel Repair Training School Come learn the business and you'll make lots of money.:) www.lakeforktacklerepair.com 903-383-2120

   All fixed from Jeff Hahn  7/6/2012 2:48:06 PM
 I got the pins from Lew's and the pliers from Boca int he mail yesterday. Got the old pin out, spool bearing cleaned and oiled, everything reassembled and took it out today...works GREAT! It's back to casting a mile like it did when it was new.


Jeff Hahn


   Woot! woot! from Lake Fork Tackle Repair  7/7/2012 10:59:01 AM
 happy day.

Lake Fork Tackle Repair The best little repair shop in Texas! 428 PR 5936, Yantis, Tx 75497 Canada Outdoors 2005 Fishing Special Edition has given us their "Special Honour-Best video of the year award. Our video now is in IGFA Musuem and Library in Florida. Specializing in Shimano Reels Only Rod and Reel Repair Training School Come learn the business and you'll make lots of money.:) www.lakeforktacklerepair.com 903-383-2120

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