how hard to Replace spinning rod handle ?? how hard to Replace spinning rod handle ??
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    how hard to Replace spinning rod handle ??
from John (63.148.102.163)  
1/22/2004 8:58:00 PM

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 Hi guys, Just wondering how hard it is to replace a spinning rod handle?? I have an AllStar IM10X with a Tennessee handle which I hate. I love the rod though and don't want to part with it. What would I need to do a quality job on this, or would I be better off giving it to a pro to do?


Thanks guys!


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   double edged answer from smalljawbasser  1/22/2004 9:44:00 PM
 it ain't to hard to do, but it's very hard to do "right". due to the taper of rod blanks, handles need to be installed from the tip down, as opposed to from the butt up, if that makes any sense. and since you would have to cut the guides off to do that... so if you install from the butt up, you end up with shims, and ill fitting handles.

i definately don't think iwould recommend this for anybody's first rodbuilding excursion. if it helps, when people ask me to replace handles, i tell them i charge $50, hoping they won't want to pay that much LOL.


   Replacing a handle... from Ballou  1/22/2004 11:54:00 PM
 SJB is correct. It can be done but to do it right, you will need to remove the guides. then you can use a portion of the Tenn handle in the new one...or...remove the hole thing. I charge more than the $50 because you essentially strip the rod and rebuild it, which is more work than building a new one. "MY" suggestion is to sell the rod and have a "custom rod" built on the same Allstar blank.

Let me know if you have anymore questions.

Tight lines......Ballou


   Handle replacement from Ray Zarychta (199.222.100.4)  1/23/2004 4:56:00 PM
 What problems other than proper shimming do you see with replacing from the bottom up?

I need to do that to one of my own personal rods due to a bad epoxy job done by me the first time..

Thanks.


   Working backwards... from Ballou  1/23/2004 7:03:00 PM
 Ray:

It is really going to depend on the degree of taper of your blank. If it is gradual, you will be ok so your cork doesn't fit too loosely. You could use fiberglas sheetrock tape to act as a shim. That will allow the glue to contact both the blank and the cork. I'd suggest using Rod Bond for glue up.

You'll also want to devise a clamp to minimize the glue seams between the cork. You can make one easily by using 2 - 1/4" all threads. Use 2 - 1.5" x 4" pieces of lumber and drill a hole large enough in the center to allow passage of the blank / reel seat area. Use a jig saw to remove one edge of the hole to form a "U". Drill the holes and you should end up with something like this: o U o ....make sense? Might want to just drill the front piece and leave the back section solid to butt up against the butt cap area. You can put saran wrap over the glued sections to insure your clamp doesn't become part of your rod. (Tends to add unnecessary weight).

Hope this helps....Ballou


   Handle replacement from Ray Z CT (68.9.114.180)  1/23/2004 11:05:00 PM
 Thanks for the tips , Ballou. It's a St Croix Legend Elite ML spinning blank so the taper is gradual. I had planned on using the tape I'll do it in two stages, reel seat first to keep it centered and then the butt grip, I've got some other types of hobby clamps that should work, thanks for the confirmation that it can be done.


   ray from smalljawbasser  1/24/2004 8:06:00 AM
 i swear, i'd seriously consider cutting the guides off and re-wrapping. it really doesn't take that long, and your handle assmebly, will be a lot better.

on a blank that nice, i'd think about it anyway. if you decide to, let us know. i'm sure we have some tips for removing guides and finish if you need them.


   guide removal... from Ballou  1/24/2004 12:35:00 PM
 Belt sander with 80 grit works well. For the tough jobs, you and use a grinding wheel. j/k. Razor over the guide foot works well if you apply just a little heat prior to cutting. That would be "my" preference to strip and rebuild a rod that nice. Good luck, either way.

Tight lines...Ballou


   Handle assembly from Ray Z CT (68.9.114.180)  1/24/2004 4:30:00 PM
 Thanks for the suggestions, guys. I'll be going the bottom route. This is my own custom spiral wrap that I built with a smaller than normal handle assembly for a 7' foot rod, I've shimmed before and I don't see it as being a real major issue. Rewrapping nine guides, some of them double foot, a hookkeeper and trim on a tip top would be a time consuming task with a good chance of bleming up the blank trying to remove the old guides.


   If it's a spinning rod from Danco  1/25/2004 12:05:00 PM
 Then a backwards rebuild is not problem. It's the blank trhough reel seats that need to be done from the tip. I've done spinners and just handles on casters (leaving the reel seat) with no problems. Rip off the old tennessee handle. Most standard spinning reel seats are 18mm ID so you have to fill anyway with Graphite arbors or something else. Since it's a rebuild I would go the easy route and use the drywall tape to shim. It's amazing how strong drywall tape saturated with Rodbond can be!! Well anything with rodbond! LOL

Set the reel seat then add cork rings or a prefabed handle and your good to go.

Personally I like rebuilding more than building. I'm funny that way. LMAO


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