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    Who really shut down the government? Read what Thomas Sowell has to say. I really really like this guy. Wish we had a LOT more like him.
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10/6/2013 10:27:49 AM



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   Only liberals blame other people for not giving them everything they want......Profound and very, very accurate! from GITTHENET  10/6/2013 3:18:04 PM

   the republicans already passed Obamacare forcryingoutloud! from Brad  10/6/2013 6:14:11 PM
 It is the LAW!

Look that up in the constitution!

It has already been run by the USSC and was judged CONSTITUTIONAL!

For you to not see that the republicans are driving this entire crises is not surprising at all! After all you are the same political scientists that KNEW iraq had wmd!

When are you going to stop listening to the SAME propagandists who have embarrassed you time after time after time?????


   WRONG AGAIN Brad from DaveT  10/6/2013 7:02:29 PM
  Obama-care was passed without a single GOP vote. You really do need to turn off MSNBC, and Rachel Madcow.

   Go Away Brad from Hutch #10968 #10968  10/6/2013 8:36:57 PM
 The dems controlled the house and senate when Obamacare was pushed down our throats..... THAT STUPID VOTE ... gave the Republicans control of the HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES in the mid term elections...... GIVE IT UP DUMBAZZ and move to Kooba..... Please, Please..... just go away..... dumber than a stick and a bona fide atheist, communist, with extreme narcissitic disorder.... GO AWAY!! Hutch

   Dave, Obamacare is a classic LOOMS HUGE moment- from Brad  10/6/2013 10:17:20 PM
 You can't even tell us in your own words what is so bad about it!!




   In my own words from Skipper  10/7/2013 9:01:20 AM
 #1. Our country is 17 trillion dollars in debt. We can not afford another give away program.

#2. We are not a socialistic country. Socialism destroys initiative and no country has done well under it.

#3. For the people who have been doing what they are supposed to be doing, working and paying for their health insurance it hurts them. They will pay the tax for the others and they will get insurance policies that cover less, provide less treatment options, and have higher out of pocket expenses.

#4. For those who want to enslave someone else to work and pay taxes to support them, not a hell of a lot will change. They either had coverage through Medicare/Medicaid/S-Chip or they screwed the providers and didn't pay for services. The tax payers who were doing what they were supposed to be doing to start with, working and paying for their insurance, will be paying taxes still to support these people.

#5. The cost to administer health care will rise because there will be more government involved instead of less. So instead of spending our health care dollar on treatment it will be spent on paperwork, computers, and dumb ass government employees answering the phone that can't give you an answer.

#6. For the people who have been paying for their insurance all along, what happens when you move them to the government plan and a couple years down the road it falls apart. Then they are back in the private market place looking for insurance with pre-existing conditions and can't buy it? They had it before this mess, the company would not have cancelled them and they could have kept what they had save for the government, now they have none.

#7. This is yet another benefit for the sorry people who won't get off their ass and get to work. I'm tired of working to keep them up. I am not a slave, I am a free man save for the damn government who steals from me to give it to voters.

#8. NOT ONE DAMN THING the government has ever attempted to operate has been a success. This will not be either.

#9. I don't want the government telling my doctor what he can and can't do for me if I'm sick. That ought to come from my doctor's knowledge and mine and his decision with facts not a government panel.

#10. You and your liberal ilk can kiss my ass.

   Again Bradiot fails to understand how our government legally operates and the facts from GITTHENET  10/7/2013 9:06:25 AM
 The republican hous chose legally to fund all of the government (fact and legal) via appropriations bills and defund the ACA (which was also fact and legal). Not to mention that Obama illegally gave waivers to corporations and exemptions to YOUR ROYALTY while still making the peons pay. And where's your outrage about that hypocrite?

The democrat run senate voted not to pass the funding of the government (fact and also legal)..... But the majority of the uninformed, which obviously includes you, think differently and wrongly.... As usual....completely disregards the facts and perpetuates lies....

   Nancy's Party from 20_lb_sack #11063 #11063  10/7/2013 9:13:26 AM
 Democrats have always been the party of slavery and now they are making slaves of us all, with them as our masters.

   Skipper you from kybassman  10/7/2013 11:12:00 AM
 sure will not like this, add one more thing your tax money will be paying for. Federal taxpayer funds could subsidize tens of thousands of abortions each year through the health care legislation that is going into effect. Between 71,000 and 111,500 per year though federal premium tax credits and Medicaid expansion for subscribers to plans that permit abortions. Sad Sad.

   Brad we have gave you a number of reasons but from DaveT  10/7/2013 2:20:32 PM
  you can't see through your Dem KOOL-AID you drink.

   Great point kybassman from DaveT  10/7/2013 2:22:07 PM
  I don't like to pay for MUDER. But here in WV medicaid already pays for abortions. And it SUCKS.

   so much mis-information, i dunno know where to start. from Brad  10/7/2013 7:32:43 PM
 I'll destroy your number 5, OK Skipper??

Here goes:

How on earth did you did not know that MILLIONS of current policy holders have received REBATE CHECKS under Obamacare???

Why are the ins companies returning all that money to their policy holders??

Because Obamacare MANDATED that all health care providers spend at leats 80% of revenues on....

wait for it!

HEALTH CARE for their policy holders!

Back in 1995 ins. companies were spending over 95% of revenues on health care--since then that % has diminished to below 80% in many cases-- Obamacare corrected that THEFT of policy holders money and made them actually spend the policy holders money on medical care or reimburse them. (nancyboy overhead had to stop!)

Thanks to Obamacare the excessive inflation in the health industry has been curbed and that is good for EVERYONE!

It is the law of the land and as it benefitts those around you, you will see how important it was to make these fundamental changes to our broken health care system. I have absolutely no doubt that some of you and your loved ones will access ACA in your time of need. I am proud that it will be there for you.

   What in heck do you know from Skipper  10/7/2013 8:51:11 PM
 About the financial workings of an insurance company?

   Brad maybe you need to read post above from DaveT  10/7/2013 9:13:29 PM
  about people in your state prems going up big time. You really do need to turn off MSNBC, and Rachel Madcow.

   8.5 MILLION checks, that's what i know! from Brad  10/7/2013 10:30:04 PM
   8.5 Million? from GITTHENET  10/7/2013 11:38:14 PM
  Yee-freakin haw, idiot! There's over 300 million people in the country, idiot! 50 million were insured in 2012 and you're claiming a positive of 5%? Geeesssssshhh! Everytime you post one of your idiotic liberal talking points you look like a bigger idiot!

Tell us how the increases everyone!, well everyone that'll will be working that is, is a conservative lie? Even idiots like you in CA are finally realizing the truth!

Or better yet, try explaining why every policy now MUST cover, allow me to rephrase, are mandated by the government to cover addictions / rehab, or womens preventive services, whether required or not! A fine example of government excess and waste.

   Getting a $200 rebate on a product that costs $18,000 per year from Skipper  10/8/2013 7:39:37 AM
 By Jack, that's good government.

   That $200 rebate will help pay for . . . from 31Airborne  10/8/2013 3:08:55 PM
 . . . my new iPhone 5 that my other entitlements didn't.


   Obama-care did not do from DaveT  10/8/2013 4:43:03 PM
  ONE THING to bring down the cost of health-care. That says a lot of what the Dems really want. CONTROL.



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