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SUBJECT: Best replacement hook and size for Corkies?
Submitted by Kelly L (199.253.23.1) from TEXAS on
I have to change hooks on my plugs on a regular basis because of corrosion, but I cant seem to find a stainless hook to use on my corkies that doesn't make them sink too fast (I'm using vmc salt water hooks, cant remember the size right off, but they were real close to the original size). Whats worse, the bait is falling nose first instead of level.
Does any one know of a good stainless solution, or am I going to have to switch to a lighter wire and just change out hooks more often?
Thanks in advance.
Kelly L.
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McTrout from TEXAS says Kelly
#4 VMC Cone Cuts are the original hooks, and you'd do pretty well to stay there. A little wash and dry when you get home goes a long way, but some added protection can be had by using that Reel Magic Spray. Chuck Uzzle got me hooked on that stuff, and I'm using it on just about everything with great results.Listen, about the SS hook idea. I'm not sure you really want to go there. For one thing, whatever fish happens to takes that bait from you will wear it for a very long time. Routinely changing hooks out is just part of the game, and ones that will deteriorate are much more friendly. Also, the SS are of course heavier, stain resistant not stain proof, and not as sharp. There are some black nickle hooks you might try that hold up very well, such as Owners, Diatchi, Gamagatsu's, Eagle Claw, etc.
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Bigwater (198.170.184.121) from South Africa says Kelly
McTrout is one sharp cookie LOL. I use those same VMC hooks. But try this with your corkie that is taking a nose dive. The lure has wire inside it running the length of the body. Go to the tail and bend it up a little or more if needed. This will help it to not nose dive as much. Then in other instances if you want it to nose dive bend the tail down. You can also bend it to the side to imitate an injured mullet.Hope this helps, Bigwater
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Grinder (64.219.21.247) from TEXAS says McTrout is a bonehead,
but I have to agree with him on this one. #4 vmc cone cut is on when new for a reason, ie, they work the best. Follow Bigwater's tip on experimenting with the "bend" for multiple actions/falls. Get use to changin hooks out if you are fortunate enough to get to fish a lot. Wash them w/ fresh water when done, let the boxes and lures air dry before storing them, but, still, you are going to have to change some hooks. And McT, you really are a bonehead. ;) -
TXhunter (66.140.5.169) from TEXAS says McT
So, are you saying that you don't use any stainless hooks?I think trout might be more adept at spitting those hooks than you give them credit for. I've sure found a lot of plugs on shorelines and in the water over the years that I assume got spit after they were broken off. There are obviously exceptions to any rule but I still think that the majority of the fish work them out. I've seen two occasions where the fish broke me or a buddy off and a couple of minutes later a slick popped up where the fish was trying to shake the hook. We got the plug back on one of them and it was a valuable old style jumpin minnow. Of course, my theory only applies to plugs. If a fish is gut hooked from somebody chunkin meat then stainless probably isn't the healthiest choice.
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Ranger Bob from TEXAS says Kelly dump the ss hooks.
Ranger Bob -
Harbormaster from NEW JERSEY says Aye! SS hooks,
battery powered socks and flappin mallard decoys, among other thangs, are for sissies! -
TXhunter (66.140.5.169) from TEXAS says thats right....
Dump those stainless hooks!! And don't keep any big trout either!! For that matter, don't do anything thats within the limitations of the law. That'll really show how politically correct you are. -
McTrout from TEXAS says TXhunter
Sure they can spit 'em. Have you ever seen them do the kamikazie head dive thing? Standing on their heads and trying to dislodge a plug in the sand? Most plugs I've found on the shorelines have all of the hardware missing though, and I'm developing this bad habit of treasure hunting for them. Agree about the high value of an old style Jumpin' Minnow. Also agree that the PC thing can get way silly. However, as much as I love stainless on anything else, no I don't use any SS hooks. Many reasons, one is certainly their half-life in the water, but I would especially avoid them on a weight sensitive Corky. -
McTrout from TEXAS says by the way Grinder ...
Last time I thumped your head I don't think there was a bone in there. Sure felt soft, kinda like a balloon filled with cold oatmeal. Just remember, I know where you live AND where you fish. -
TXhunter (66.140.5.169) from TEXAS says confidence
I just can't see myself putting on anything but a cone cut. Maybe its confidence, for sure its hardheadedness. I can't even bring myself to throw those boring corkies either. -
Melon from TEXAS says Old style Jumping Minnows?
I have a box full of them old jumping minnow.Best early morning June and July topwater to throw.Now after my wrist gives in I switch to the good old assassins.I have never changed hooks on my Jumping Minnows either.I just wash them down with fresh water once I climb into the boat.Only takes a minute.Just my two worthless cents. -
TXhunter (66.140.5.169) from TEXAS says best when?
Since you use them so seldomly I would be glad to take some off your hands for the other ten months of the year. -
Melon from TEXAS says Nope! Nope!
Well just not as much!LOL -
Braz (137.242.1.50) from TEXAS says Hooks
How do you guys feel about debarbing those hooks whiles yous ats it? -
Johnie Crocker (71.113.229.88) from TEXAS says Corkie
WHAT IS A CORKIE? I've been told to use a corkie for trout in Sabine Lake. I can't find anybody to tell me what it is much less where to get them. I've planned a mid April trip to Beaumont to work for my elderly mother & plan to reward myself & wife with a trip to the bay. Sure hope someone will give me some leads. I tried Cabella's, Gander Mountain & Academy. Bass Pro is just too far of my beaten path. One of them told me that an individual makes them in his garage. Surely there's a way to buy them. HELP!