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SUBJECT: Cedar Bayou is dead...straight from the horses mouth! Also, news on the trout fixes coming.

Submitted by ouda (76.31.120.48) from TEXAS on

Just got back from a trip to Rockport. Spent most of the week talking to top guides, local leaders, regulators and politicos. Bottom line is that the pass will never be opened by man. It will be "studied" by the Corp...ha ha. Unless another storm opens the pass you can kiss that project adieu.


Why you ask? Because unless the project includes a bridge over the pass to allow the landowner to access the rest of the property to the North it just won't happen. It's called politics and power and influence.


Sorry for you, Lynn. As for the whoopers, the locals wish they would all die. The pass apparently has nothing to do with the whoopers anyway. The drought is what has ruined the marsh ponds and killed off the food supply of the birds. The money spent on the cranes could be much better spent on assistance to the Katrina victims or the Ike victims. It's time to just let go and leave the cranes to become extinct just as thousands of other species have done.


Lynn, if you want a good project to work on, take on the Croaker Soaker problem that has decimated the fish population in the Rockport area as well as every other area that the bay rapers have set up residence in. Also look for some drastic regulations coming out of the TP&WL this year to attempt to fix the missing existence of spawning trout in the 18-26 in sizes. I'm hoping also that the fix is made for the commercial giggers to put them out of business.


  1. Spooled Again from OTHER says Oh I hate those....
    ....danged commercial fish rapers. Bastages they are!

    SA


  2. Hard Head (99.146.242.111) from TEXAS says Gamefish Status for Croakers!
    Then they will fish with piggy perch, ballyhoo or the deadly topwater lure or possibly a live shrimp under a popping cork. Where will it all end?

    Now let's see how long it takes Queen SCB to chime in and tell you what a liar you are and that sand will fly in 90 days! lmfao


  3. ouda (76.31.120.48) from ALABAMA says they won't outlaw croakers
    if you outlawed croakers the rapers would just, as you said, turn to piggys, which, by the way, can be raised, fed, bred, and kept without limitation. The fix as I understand the underground will be much lower limits. Soon, it just won't be worth $500 plus to catch a couple trout. May even be some months when the season is closed. I'd be for closing the estuary in April, May, October and November till the system recovers. Furhter I'd like to see NO commercial take or sales of flounder.


  4. Hard Head (12.25.230.211) from TEXAS says Guess I'll sit back and wait on the next round
    Of Town Hall Meetings. I highly doubt we'll ever see the Comm's out of the flounder business unless they get gamefish status. And I don't see that happening anytime soon.


  5. Dogfish (75.16.114.237) from TEXAS says One flew over
    QSCB is unusually quiet. Maybe she's home recovering from those electroshock treatments we recommended!


  6. Jimbo (69.152.240.214) from TEXAS says Aaaaaa,,,
    Awh Geez, say it ain't so? She didn't have it ironed out with the land owner??? Now that's having all your whoopers in a row. Crash,,,BURMA SHAVE

    But wait,,,Isn't the horse's mouth in Galveston, and not Rockport? Thought Rockport only had the other end of the horse. I'll bet chucklebutt is laughing so hard this time, that she's got tears in her eyes. Remember, it's a game, and the game isn't over till a Fat Lady sings.


  7. ouda (76.31.120.48) from ALABAMA says handwriting
    I assume that even Lynn can read the handwriting on the wall and that's why she has gone silent. It must be horrible to have to save so much face that there is none less afterwards.


  8. Hard Head (12.25.230.210) from TEXAS says She sure shut up!
    I guess she finally figured out she got her azz handed to her.


  9. egobruiser (67.61.226.238) from TEXAS says Horse's Mouth
    I have one question for you bashers, That question being, What do horses eat?


  10. Hard Head (99.146.242.111) from TEXAS says What do horses eat?
    It dam sure isn't seafood of any kind. They eat grasses and grains so WTF does that have to do with anything? Queen SBC got her AZZ handed to her and you're here to take up for her? WTFever!


  11. egobruiser (67.61.226.238) from TEXAS says what does horse's eat
    It dam sure isn't seafood of any kind. They eat grasses and grains so WTF does that have to do with anything? Queen SBC got her AZZ handed to her and you're here to take up for her? WTFever!

    Just exactly the response I expected, from your comments you know about horses! What does the grasses and grains do when processed?


  12. ouda (76.31.120.48) from ALABAMA says i know, i know,
    I can answer that. It turns into fecal matter which is what is between your ears? What do I win?


  13. egobruiser (67.61.226.238) from TEXAS says fecal
    Obviously, Only you would know that!


  14. Jimbo (75.58.161.230) from TEXAS says Egobruiser,,,
    Egobruiser,,,,You and very few similar others have now become less support than a broken corset for the queen of SCB.

    GM had to fire their CEO and even now still faces bankruptcy with virtually no more help, after following it's CEO blindly toward failure.

    The board of directors of SCB face a similar dilemma as GM,,,they must replace Lynn. She has proven she can not lead their organization to re-open the pass on multiple occasions,,,for 11 years and with too much failure. Only a fool would continue to support her.

    Your self-choosen name makes it's own statement to join her failure. So be it.


  15. egobruiser (67.61.226.238) from TEXAS says Jimbo
    So you know about corset's now do you?

    And your knowledge on GM, shows just about as much intelligence that you show on the comments posted here.

    I have not commented that I support anyone or any organization! Observed how dis-respectful certain individual's were to another individual.

    And here you are now showing your intelligence " self-choosen name makes own statement" Whoa, Again that brain is really getting a workout isnt it?


  16. Jimbo (69.152.240.214) from TEXAS says So be it
    You walked into this forum with attitude,,,and if you think your going to calm it from the years of lies and snide remarks Lynn has left, you are wrong. Your attitude was nothing less than suggestive support toward her,,,this board has had 11 years of that too. You came in to get arousal and succeeded,,,to now try and explain differently with the agitational remarks you made purposely placed yourself as a bash-er also. So wear that crown too.

    You now seem to not know the board's history with Lynn, yet you walked in firing salvos, and trying to agitate the scene. You didn't try to calm the moment,,,just the opposite.

    Don't try now to be just an observer, or say you had no meaning within your agitations,,,it simply doesn't float.

    And I'll tell you again,,, "You and very few similar others have now become less support than a broken corset for the queen of SCB."

    And yes,,,most everyone is aware of corsets, except maybe for you? And yes,,,your actions implied support.

    As for my knowledge on GM's wows,,,don't you read or listen to the news? Even President Obama had words supporting my above GM statement. He stated GM must remove their CEO while trying to borrow from the Feds. Don't try to play me the part of mis-informed here,,,and let's hope GM doesn't go down this week. Opal is already gone from GM's relm.

    The CEO of an organization is exactly that,,,Chief Executive Officer,,,the buck stops there. The Administrator in charge of total management,,,or it's failure. Lynn has presented herself as CEO of SCB for years.

    And yes, my brain is getting a workout,,,you should try that with yours, instead of whatever you are doing on this forum that has been lied to about consecutive failure for so many years.

    And if you didn't choose your own name for this board,,,did Lynn,,,she's had several of her own while hiding in the past. So be it too.


  17. Hard Head (12.25.230.210) from TEXAS says I believe Egobruiser is
    Lynn's good buddy Jennette Childs?


  18. Jimbo (69.152.240.214) from TEXAS says Dang,,,
    Double Dang. Who would a thought it,,,so many snakes in the same basket? And here I thought it might be Lynn herself using someone else's puter.

    "I have not commented that I support anyone or any organization!" Egobruiser,,,I wouldn't make that group claim either.

    Is there any wonder the pass won't open? Playing games,,,,playing games,,,I'll bet it's tea time at Jennette's house today. Will a fat lady please come prepared to sing?


  19. Hard Head (12.25.230.210) from TEXAS says Actually Jimbo
    Egobruiser has better typing skills than Queen SCB so I knew it couldn't be her, so who better else than a Reporter can it be? lol But I could be wrong.


  20. egobruiser (67.61.226.238) from TEXAS says Jimbo
    Jimbo-

    I stumbled upon this forum doing research, and discovered disrespectful negative comments toward a certain individual.I left a direct comment asking about horses that you have taken as negative and suggestive. The person that needed to answer that question is the one that stated " straight from the horses mouth" He/She did that...... And with that being said, from his/her response they know what I was referring to and responded with literally horse crap. Instead of Naming names.

    I am not trying to be just an observer, I am doing research and disagree that it seem's to be that certain individuals's names can be named and mentioned but not other's.

    cor·set (kôrst) n. 1. A close-fitting undergarment, often reinforced by stays, worn to support and shape the waistline, hips, and breasts. 2. A medieval outer garment, especially a laced jacket or bodice And I'll tell you again,,, "You and very few similar others have now become less support than a broken corset for the queen of SCB."

    With that statement I have to ask exactly what is your point? A Corset is something worn, Not Assumed!

    And yes,,,most everyone is aware of corsets, except maybe for you? And yes,,,your actions implied support.

    My actions implied support for an orginazation and/or indiviual? I disagree. Assumption's seem to sure fly around here!

    GM- Here you are again,"your" previous comment -

    > GM had to fire their CEO and even now still faces bankruptcy with virtually no more help, after following it's CEO blindly toward failure.

    Even a Blind and Deaf Man knew that was inevitable, how long ago?

    The CEO of an organization is exactly that,,,Chief Executive Officer,,,the buck stops there. The Administrator in charge of total management,,,or it's failure. Lynn has presented herself as CEO of SCB for years.

    Which is why I am here at this point, Or it's "failure" If you have proof that it is a failure at this point, why not do just that prove it instead of assuming, ie: My research has shown NOT A CEO But President!

    And yes, my brain is getting a workout,,,you should try that with yours, instead of whatever you are doing on this forum that has been lied to about consecutive failure for so many years.

    This is not giving my brain a workout! Facts, Do Not have to think and/or assume!

    And if you didn't choose your own name for this board,,,did Lynn,,,she's had several of her own while hiding in the past. So be it too.

    egotistical - characteristic of false pride; having an exaggerated sense of self-importance; "a conceited fool"; "an attitude of self-conceited arrogance"; "an egotistical disregard of others"; "so swollen by victory that he was unfit for normal duty"; "growing ever more swollen-headed and arbitrary.

    That is why I chose the given name, Let it speak for itself!


  21. Hard Head (12.25.230.210) from TEXAS says Egobruiser, you appear to have a bit of
    ARROGANCE about you. Main Entry:ar·ro·gance Pronunciation:\ˈer-ə-gən(t)s, ˈa-rə-\ Function:noun Date:14th century : an attitude of superiority manifested in an overbearing manner or in presumptuous claims or assumptions


  22. Jimbo (69.152.240.214) from TEXAS says Ego,,, you're down to using Websters incorrectly
    So you stumbled in here slamming your purse on the table like you had a score to settle, and now you are claiming research.

    Research huh,,,why does your honest research find Lynn to be President,,, yet not the Chief Executive Officer, after holding years of sole performance responsibility? She has stated she will make the decisions of performance on the pass to this forum, and she will not be swayed.

    Why does your honest research not find failure in her repeated permit applications,,,do you really know the number of times she has submitted for a permit? She has stated that data on this forum. Biased research?

    Why does your WMI research hear Lynn in Feb this year state "the permit is in",,,wait "30 days". She's stated that in other multiple years too, yet still no performance on the pass? It's been over 125 days since that statement of her's. Can't you see her pattern within your research? It is fact stated by her.

    Is your research biased, or blind, or just doesn't care about the pass itself? Do you and her stumble together?

    Being the subject was on the pass, have you implimented single blind research, or double blind research, or BS research to cover the true 11 years of failure, or just this year's failure?

    No one can go through 11 years of pettitioning for permits to open that pass without repetitive failures.

    Research is so important, and should never be tainted to be self-serving. Research Lynn's performance from just 2002 and forward on this board. And tell us how many times she has opened the Cedar Bayou Pass? Research that, being it is the subject base. Or is your research claim bogus, as some of your statements seem to imply?

    As to your research pronunciation you listed for "corset",,,,there be a problem too. (kôrst)

    Correct it to the Texas version \ˈkȯr-sət\,,, a 2 syllable word. Possibly some Arkansas research was flawed, puzzling your dizzy little head to stumble, again?

    Lynn represented herself as President, and with sole decisions on the pass permit actions. That is the Chief Executive Officer of SCB.

    Seems your research is again flawed toward Lynn's responsibilities to the pass.

    If within your research, you find Lynn has lied about making those final decisions, then who is the CEO, if not the SCB Lady President, by her declaration?

    Seems either Lynn is lying,,,or your research is flawed, or self-serving from both?

    Also seems Lynn has sucked herself back into her shell again. Said she's done talking, again. Why don't you research how many times that has happened,,,it holds a history of fact too. But not long, she does come back. So does she lye about being done, or just mis-represent her intent?


  23. egobruiser (67.61.226.238) from TEXAS says Jimbo
    My final comment on this forum!

    Once again I will state that I stumbled upon this forum doing research on Cedar. And once again I will state that I see alot of bashing against certain individual's.

    What are you doing to contribute to the pass being opened, Or are you "following" a certain someone?!


  24. Hard Head (12.25.230.210) from TEXAS says Fair thee well!
    If your claim to research is correct, then go back in time as Jimbo said and see for yourself the antics of Lynn on this and several other forums. We don't see any of our replies as bashing. Only pointing out that what was supposed to have happened 10 years ago is no further along now than then. Thanks for dropping in.


  25. Jimbo (69.152.240.214) from TEXAS says say bye,,,your presence will be missed,,,
    Who I am, and my involvement in the Pass opening is not important,,, I am no body, as I am not partitioning for the responsibility or funding of Cedar Bayou. Lynn is however,,, and therefore each of us has the responsibility to question her ability to complete. My being has been questioned here before,,,research the results.

    Your research surely has found that even the Corp of Engineer's has not placed near +or- 1/4 of a million dollars into her hands for the project she proposes. Even when she claims to have all her ducks in a row and waiting on the Corp in multiple years, the Corp waivered permiting/funding.

    Under different leadership, SCB has opened that same pass before Lynn's tenure. But of course, your reseach has already found that premise. But then your research tool failed to recognize a 2 syllable word correctly,,,so maybe you are unknowing of similar issues too?

    The Corp does not hold a vote of confidence to place her proposed project with funding into her hands til completion.

    SCB funds continue to be used up monthly by Lynn,,, and with no active permit in hand for years. And your research tool surely read that in this forum,,, as she made that statement here on WMI.

    Yes, I repeat the results of a lot of her actions,,,and if that seems verbally violent by repeating those results, or lack of actions, so be it.

    Her being inept leaves Cedar Bayou without a future. And that is exactly where it has been led today.

    I'd slam my purse on the table too, when there is no secured performance for that length in time.

    Call my acknowledgement of her performance as bashing,,,what do you call the lack in her results? Surely you have a name for that too? I'm just a messenger of those results.

    I can understand your stumbling in and back out of WMI. I wish you truely wanted Cedar Bayou re-opened.


  26. ouda (76.31.120.48) from ALABAMA says miss patti spreadeagle to the rescue, please
    we need the silver tongued Patti Spreadeagle to come on here and treat us to a diatribe.I assume her handle represents her favorite position so maybe the Corp would be interested in her offerings.


  27. Hard Head (12.25.230.210) from TEXAS says Classic Ouda!
    But it probably smells like a deck plank from a Tuna boat.


  28. Patti Spreadeagle (99.158.42.4) from TEXAS says Bunch of coulyons
    Im just watching you make fools of yourself again. If you would help instead of trying to put everybode out of business with your trash potty mouth talk something good could get done for once.


  29. Dogfish (75.9.219.206) from TEXAS says From QSCB on Texasflats.net
    http://www.texasflats.net/index.php/board,36.0.html

    Yep, it is true, the USFWS is holding up the permit. I spoke with Mr. Cutler and he stated that the USFWS wants more. So, I got on the phone with Dean Watkins with the USFWS in Albuquerque New Mexico. He said that he didn't know anything about anything. That he had not heard anything in a month about the project. Gosh, what a deal. Needless to say I just lost it and told Mr. Watkins just what I thought about that and more. Really, all he could say was, "will we have to know if there are any benefits in opening Cedar Bayou. HELLO, Benefits, he should have ask about the negative benefits, which there are NONE. People wonder why I get so crazy, try talking to these guys and you will stop wondering. I strongly suggested that he contact Mr. Strand down here and get with the program. I also sent him a picture of the sand dam across Vinson Slough in which the USFWS signed off on. I hope to hear from someone in the next few days. If I don't hear from them I will call the big boy Ken Salazar, their boss and see what he has to say about this. Right now I am so mad I could just spit. So I guess I had better get off of here, get a cold one, put my feet up and call it a day. Tomorrow is another day in my world. I wanted you guys to know that I am still on top of this, pushing hard to get these folks with the program. The permit is long from being dead as some have stated. It is just being stalled by one agency and I am about to fix that. I will let you know how things go and keep you up dated more often then I have. I still have that meeting with the Governor coming up. I guess we will see just were he stands on this issue. Catch you later, Lynn


  30. Jimbo (69.152.240.214) from TEXAS says pronunciation: cool' lyons ???
    So, she's mad,,,she told a man in New Mexico off, and told him just how she felt about something he doesn't know about,,,and she's gonna talk to their boss to see what the boss says. NOW SHE'S GOnNA PUT HER FEET UP AND HAVE A COLD ONE,,,'cause tommorow is another day in her world.

    It's nice to know the permit is long from being dead, as some have stated. And she's gonna let us know how things go and keep us updated. Does that sound musical?

    Dang,,, she's good. A meeting with the Governor is next. He'll be sorry,,,she's so mad she could spit. That'll teach him.

    Hey chucklebutt,,,get two cold ones, and chugalug them both. I think the pass is still closed,,,and I'd bet your moments happen often in that world of yours? Reward yourself.

    Use the Koozie with both hands while in your severe condition,,,and take two asprins to work with you in the morning.

    I'm a believer in Lynn's remedy working for her. Pronunciation:\ˈre-mə-dç\ Who woulda asked for anything more or less?

    Yep Patti,,,I made a fool of myself repeating her words,,,that pass just might have been opened at high tide last night. And your illustrious leader did such work for how many years now?

    Dang, she's good. I'm amazed she hasn't broken your nose while doing a right-hand turn from a left-hand lane. Somebody warn the Governor to wear garlic,,,the albatross approaches.


  31. Hard Head (12.25.230.210) from TEXAS says Patti, WTF are you talking about?
    Who are we trying to put out of business and how? You COMM's are doing a good enough job of that yourselves!


  32. RikiDog (98.200.248.32) from TEXAS says egobruiser
    Mostly just a lurker here, check in about every 4-6 weeks. egobruiser, coming off to me as a big boob.

    What ever do horses have to do with any of this. When my son was 4 years old and frustrated. He would spout off Window, Donkey, Necklace.. We never figured out what that had to do with the price of rice, either. Eventually he has grown to be 21 years old in his 3rd year of collage. Now he just says the "S" word when he's frustrated like everybody else does.

    Perhaps there is hope for your future maturity growth too. egobruiser.

    dog


  33. Hard Head (12.25.230.211) from TEXAS says Holy Cow!
    Who let the DOG out? Hey Dog, good seeing you around.


  34. mamma-sohn (96.8.249.143) from TEXAS says where you been mr riki dog
    mamma hope you get new boat fixed right cause mamma look forward to getting big fat ass on bow and spot cast big gold redfish in blackwater lakes. mamma hear you damn good guide why you not guide anymore. if you try hard you get as good as mr tooter in rockport. he worldclass with new rubber bait he made. mamma wonder how he get schrimp inside rubber bait.





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