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SUBJECT: # 35179: The big question on which boat and motor for offshore?
Submitted by GillBruton (63.10.49.161) from SOUTH CAROLINA on 6/20/01 4:56:00 PM
Wife will finally be out of nursing school and I get my boat, would like to stay around 40K. Need price to include electronics. Have been looking at the 25 Cobia Walkaround and thinking about going with 200 HPID Yamaha. There is a lot of lost space with the transome design. The Chawk 235 Walkaroud with a sea drive bracket and a 200 HPID looks real good???? Please help!!!! Will listen to you guys and take all in consideration. Gill
- 6/20/01 5:25:00 PM
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Speck-Tacular (12.73.239.100) from LA says Power
Those boats would be severly underpowered with a single 200. If you want to stick with a single motor and around a 200-225 horse engine then I would look at 21-22 foot deep v's Maybe a dusky or contender. Any 25 foot boat on the market really needs to have twin engines on it in my belief.
- 6/20/01 5:33:00 PM
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miker (24.2.3.34) from FL says boats
just saw an episode of shipshape tv that featured an aluminum boat from www.acbboats.com ,it looks really good. i think i would be happier with one of these than my 30' fiberglass.take a look.
- 6/21/01 8:11:00 AM
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Longfisher (66.25.63.68) from TX says Whatever you buy, get a closed transom...very important!
Offshore is not the most forgiving of environments for a novice. Boats with open transoms, like mine, require some care in operating them in the open ocean. It's easy to swamp them (See Dave Pasco's site for a great article on this).So, I recommend choosing one with a bracket or go I/O or inboard. It's probably the single most important choice you'll make in choosing your first boat which will contribute most significantly to seaworthiness.
LongFisher
- 6/21/01 8:45:00 AM
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John957 (63.209.180.128) from NJ says Cobia and Chawk
I'd research those brands carefully. I haven't seen many positives about them. Some boatbuilders build a strong no frills boat to keep costs low (Parker, Dusky), others build a boat with all the bells and whistles then cut corners where you can't see it. I'd look for a quality name used boat with a newer engine. You'll get alot more boat for the buck.
- 6/21/01 8:49:00 AM
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Peter t (155.178.180.5) from NJ says boat choice
Gill i looked at just about every 25' w/a out there and I really like the Dusky. http://www.dusky.com/dusky256fac.HTM
- 6/21/01 9:22:00 AM
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Doug (166.102.83.43) from GA says 240cc proline
When I bought my boat a 240cc proline,several people wanted me to get twin 200`s,I went with twin 135`s.It runs 57 mile per hour if I had it to do overagain I would want a top speed of about 40 because I have a 144 gallon fuel tank and can go 150 miles tops.You will love driving twins after the first week. The first time I put this boat in the water I bumped every post in the marina trying to drive it,the next moring I didn`t have any trouble.If your going off shore go with twins.One more thing go 4 stroke.waterspout out
- 6/21/01 10:41:00 AM
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Jimmy (66.26.0.4) from NC says 25 footer needs twins or at least 250...
You dont want to be underpowered, you need enough power to bust through an inlet if you have to. My old 23 footer had a 200 on it and that boat definately needed more power, running along it seemed to run fine, but in rough water when it came to powering up fast such as inlet running it ws a dangerous boat...
- 6/21/01 11:22:00 AM
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Bill Thomas (32.101.149.13) from FL says Shamrock
Check out a Shamrock 22-26. I ran many outboard boats and like my inboard much better. I get good mileage, do all the maintenance myself, and I can repower for 3-6K. It is great fishing from the clean transom of an inboard. The boats run much slower than most outboard boats, but you will be very comfortable in 3-4 at 20 knots and you will not come home beat up.
- 6/21/01 11:41:00 AM
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FrankWa (204.28.142.2) from PA says One more thing to consider is
not buying new... Traideronline.com has many boat listed.I personally like Center Consoles, they are more roomy for fishing and I feel have more space overall. Almost all of the 24'+ccs have a head under the console, so the little lady does have a place to go...
I saw a 2000 hydra-sport Vector 24' boat listed on trader online last week for about $36,000 loaded with T-top, and all the electronics. List price for this boat is about $55,000+.
There are several very good brand of boats, which have been referenced on this board. Do your homework.
For offshore fishing(way out) 2 engines do provide a margin of security, but if you'll be staying within about 25 miles of the inlet generally speaking, then 1 engine is OK.
Where/how you will be using the boat will dictate the layout and engine configuration. If more fishing, then I'd steer towards CC.
- 6/21/01 3:21:00 PM
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Logic (204.189.120.252) from TX says Boats ( logic )
I just bought a new boat. after months of research and pricing, i bought the new logic( www.logic.com) 210c/c. i love this boat and it is the best 21 footer i have been in offshore or in shore. i have a johnson 150, and it runs 48 mph, with a 86 gallon tank, i get a 250 mile range at 4000 rpms( 34 mph ). i have three kids,and this boat is indestructable, by them or the water. this boat has no wood, is clean and roomy. i love it.
- 6/21/01 3:28:00 PM
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Logic (204.189.120.252) from TX says Logic questions
If you have any questions about the logic contact me @ rbinnion@tuboscope.com. i do not work for them , just own one of there good boats, and think every fisherm deserves the best boat he can afford to buy.
- 6/21/01 6:52:00 PM
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Jb (208.225.218.202) from NC says New boat
Gill, it's nice to have such a tough decision to make...Depends upon what you're expectations and intent are. We need more info. If you don't mind getting wet, a CC is hard to beat for alot of types of fishing. Contenders and Regulators ride great, if you can afford them. But you'll still get wet. A CC with wings is much better. If you're only planning to troll way offshore, you don't need the walkaround space of a CC or a W/A design. If you're planning to king fish within a few miles of the beach, the CC is the choice. For offshore, you need a design that dumps the water well in rough seas, along with a clean transom and roomy cockpit. The W/A is a good compromise, in my opinion. It doesn't do anything exceptionally well, but it does most things OK. Again, depends upon your type of fishing.
If you've already decided on a 23-25' W/A (sounds like maybe you have), I would recc. the 25' Grady White. A used one, Sailfish or Dolphin, early 90's with twin 200's, low hours, great shape, should hit right around $40K. It's not the best ride, but it will get you there and back. Dry. It's one of the top 2 or 3 25' W/A's out there. Period. I'm sure there would be those that disagree, but look at the opinions of the more experienced boaters. Post on some of the various boards and ask for opinions on the best 25's ever, and see what answers you get. I did that before I bought, and it narrowed my choices dramatically. Of course, I was looking at a used boat, not new. That hull, with newer model motors would be a really good choice, but maybe a little over the $40K point.
I agree with shopping around. Take your time and ride on as many boats as you can. In rough water, not just inside the inlet on a calm day. Find out how the boat feels coming off a nice-sized wave. Buy a quality hull and add the frills as you go, if necc.
Tidbits: Deep V = smooth ride with more roll. Less V = less roll, but rougher ride. Know your deadrise and dry weight!
Don't buy open transom.
Don't underpower, but don't overpower either. As for twins offshore, it is nice to have but you pay for it at the pump. Consider a small 10-15 hp and a bracket if you want peace of mind. I probably will on my next boat, if it's anything under 25'.
Heard alot of good things about Dusky, Parker and Shamrock also.
You'd have to go through alot of gas to justify 4 stroke. How long do you really think you'll own/use the boat?
Buy used boat with remaining engine warranty.
IMHO.
JB
- 11/6/05 3:57:00 PM
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brian brink (65.8.183.74) from FL says 1987 dusky 256 inboard diesel
How much is this boat worth with a brand new 5.9 cummins turbo diesel,newsoft top,cushuns tri-axle trailer alum.,eison glass, telascoping outriggers and new paint on bow?
