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SUBJECT: # 13434: wet boat vs dry boat

Submitted by wd nunn ( from NORTH CAROLINA on 1/12/2000 9:37:00 PM

Heard the guys a few posts ago talking about a 31 ft bert being a wet ride. Its just hard for me to believe a boat that size can be that way. I've just got into this offshore thing this past year when i bought a 24 ft cc to fish around morehead city nc. When someone says the boat rides wet do they mean into a head sea,a following sea or what ? What makes a boat wet or dry, high freeboard,wide flared bow, lack of or too much deadrise ? The only time i get really wet in mine is when the wind blows from either side at 15 knots or better. When coming in on a following sea this thing will throw water a good 40 or 50 ft out to the sides and never come in the boat. Think its a pretty dry boat but i've not been in enough boats to really know. Thanks for any input on this. W.D. Nunn

  1. 1/13/2000 12:21:00 AM Submitted by Ric W. ( from VIRGINIA says FAQ: Do I have a wet boat?
    Here are a few questions you can ask yourself to determine if you have a wet boat. If the answer to ANY is yes, you have a wet boat!

    1. Do you have a bottle of Windex and a roll of paper towel within reach of the helm?

    2. Do your feet look like prunes before lunchtime?

    3. Do you know all about ‘fast drying’ clothes?

    4. Do you double zip-lock bag your sandwiches?

    5. Do your riders show up at the dock on a cloudless day wearing a full foul weather suit?

    6. Do you put on your foul weather suit before you throw dock lines?

    7. Do you wrap your ‘sea bag’ in triple heavy-duty trash bags?

    8. Do you fresh water rinse your rods and reels before you set your first bait?

    9. Do you have a diver’s mask to wear while running?

    10. Do you have a snorkel to go with the mask?

    11. Do you ever remember missing something onboard that you knew was there when you left the dock?

    12. Do folks call you “Salty” to you face?

    13. Do the folks that are gracious enough to ‘chip-in’ on the expenses give you damp bills?

    14. Do you have trouble keeping the radio and microphone working?

    15. Do you notice that the bilge pumps are running a lot?

    16. Do you keep your charts stowed while you are away from the dock?

    17. Do you ever just say "to heck with this" and troll down wind?

    18. Do you ever wear a full rain suit all day on a clear day, never taking it off?

    19. Do you notice that the rest of the folks are wearing their hoods up?

    20. Do you wish that you could wear your hood up?

    21. Do friends call your boat the “SHOWER STALL”?

    These are only a few questions that quickly came to my mind. I am sure that others may have more to add. I mention these in humor but there is real truth in each and ever one. Please don’t take this as a put down. Just think about it.


  2. 1/13/2000 12:41:00 AM Submitted by Sal ( from CALIFORNIA says Wet vs. dry.
    Wet boat is a term used with larger boats. A month ago, i took a test ride with a friend, that wanted my opinion on a 32 ft. Grand Banks. Upon returning to the harbor we had to buck a good head wind & 3-4 ft. seas. The boat rode very smooth but took hundreds, maybe thousands of gallons of spray over the bow, soaking the whole boat. This is concidered a wet boat, as the hull travels through the waves [ not over ] allowing water to soak the whole exterior of the boat. My 20 ft. Boston Whaler Outrage, would not have had a drop of water inside under the same conditions. This is a dry boat, that rides on top of the water, not through it. The bigger the boat [ up to 50 ft.]the wetter the exterior gets in choppy water. Sal
  3. 1/13/2000 12:46:00 AM Submitted by Sal ( from CALIFORNIA says Sorry.
    I sent it to soon. Displacement hulls are smoother riding then planing hulls, but they are much wetter, because they plow through any disturbance on the surface of the water. Instead of riding on top as a planing hull would. Sal
  4. 1/13/2000 7:17:00 AM Submitted by mike ( from NEW HAMPSHIRE says #12
  5. 1/13/2000 9:44:00 AM Submitted by Geoff ( from NEW JERSEY says But seriously folks......
    wd.... In regards to the 31' being a wet boat, well you are correct. Low freeboard coupled with a near vertical rise (little...ok, no bow flare or "overhang") tends to smash water outwards, which, when coupled with wind, inevetabely comes back to find you. Compare the bow of a 31 with that of any kind of Carolina boat to see complete opposites.
  6. 1/13/2000 12:37:00 PM Submitted by Ken ( from CALIFORNIA says Dry is a relative term
    In my book there are wet boats and less wet boats. No such thing as a dry boat, and that includes aircraft carriers.

    On the subject of bow flare, I am not sure one can make a blanket statement as to vertical rise vs bow flare being less wet. With excessive flare and wind and waves, you can have an extremely wet boat, while an old vertical stem, no flare boat with a decent spray rail could be less wet, in the same conditions.

    Wet boat has water draining off deck most of the time. Less wet, water is draining off deck less often.

  7. 1/13/2000 3:11:00 PM Submitted by Charlie ( from NEW JERSEY says Wet/Dry
    I really think all of the comments are great. Ken from CA is right on. If you go out in big seas you are going to get wet. Most Bertram drivers only listen to the weatherman with one ear (the wet one) and therefore end up running into big seas. If you can go fast enought into big seas, like Berts can do, you will get wet. I don't care how much flair you have at 20kts the wind will lift the spray into the boat. I like a following seas with a headwind. I can run fast cruise and be gone before the water has a chance to come down! As for a 20'Boston Whaler running 3-4 seas without a drop; well that is pure B.S. Maybe the waves are steeper on the east coast than on the west coast; but I would pay money to see some fool run a 20' boat into the 3-4's we get off NJ.
  8. 1/13/2000 3:25:00 PM Submitted by Just Fishin ( from VIRGINIA says Wet boat
    From what I can tell most folks will always say "my boat is a dry boat". This totally depends on what conditions you are used to and what size/type of boat you have. I have a 20 foot Center COnsole and when the wind is blowing and I am running in the troughs of the waves you will get wet from the spray (actually my new 3 sided enclosure keeps you TOTALLY dry but that does not count). In a head or following sea (4 ft or less) I do not take any waves over the bow or stern (unless I do something stupid like bury the bow). While drifting I do take on water through the transom but that is due to no splashwell.

    All in all, I would think that a boat with an agressive deadrise (21 degree or better) will give you the best ride in a tight chop/slop...will you get wet?? Depends on the operator and the direction of the wind in relation to the direction you are running.

    Just my opinion...


  9. 1/13/2000 5:56:00 PM Submitted by Gene B. ( from TEXAS says Add to Ric W's list. Have we left out any?
    22. Have you ever looked into a mirrow an seen salt on the top of your ears after a rough trip?

    23. Have you ever had a salt crust on the top of your outboard? Especially black Mercs?

    24. On a cold morning, have you ever taken a cold wave over the bow that "raised your landing gear" then you felt it dripping off your REAR end under your whity tighties?

    I had all this happen to me with my old '75 Grady 20' Overnighter plus most of numbers 1 through 21. Water would actually pour on the helm as though it was pouring from a 5 gallon bucket. After three years with my 97 20'Whaler (Accutrack hull), I have not had as much as a 1/2 pint from a mist or spray touch me. I'm with Sal on this one.

  10. 1/13/2000 9:11:00 PM Submitted by Sal ( from CALIFORNIA says Whalers are not wet boats.
    Only a person that dosen't know how to run one gets wet. Believe me i'v had this boat for 13 years, & i fish it hard, sometimes 3 times a week, & it hasn't had 1 gallon of water come in from spray or any other way besides washing it. Experience teaches "MOST" people how to run an open boat. Those that don't know how to correctly trim her, or take the wrong angles on the waves, or run 35 mph in a cross wind, are going to get wet. I'v been there & done that with other boats & learned many, many, years ago how to not to get wet. Just takes a little savy thats all. Sal
  11. 1/13/2000 11:33:00 PM Submitted by Speck-Tacular ( from LOUISIANA says Whaler
    Ok from what I understand a true deep V is wetter than a any other hull for example out 18 whaler outrage beats us to death in rough water(4-6) footers and is rough in 2-3s as well. but we have never had hardly a drop of water in the boat it is a dry riding boat. NOw my friends 17 mako i have been in is a lot smoother riding but you can get spray sometimes. The clincher though is our 254 mako gets more water in the boat in bad weather than our whaler ever did in its whole life. However we have never ever felt in danger in it and rarely get beat up and consistenly run it through 5-7 foot chop and do it around 20-25 mph. but we get soaked in the process, there is a differece in the V shape on the mako and the whaler, the V on the mako is sharper and less chine, while the whaler has a flatter V and the chines which kick the water away. Anyways if your in warm water who cares. the boat gives me my weekly shower.
  12. 1/14/2000 11:10:00 AM Submitted by Sharky ( from CONNECTICUT says Wet Boat/Dry Boat
    Let's compare 2 boats the I know personally, One is a wet boat and one is a dry boat.#1-32'Albermarle- This is considered a wet boat. When running, the first chine, who's job is to knock down the water that is displaced by the hull is pushing the water out from under the boat at approx. 10' from the bow. This is to far forward and thus throws up a lot of water which can be felt in the cockpit and any manner. #2 31'Cabo- is considered a dry boat, because the first chine is knocking down the displaced water at approx. 15' from the bow. Considerably further back than the Alby. Look at pictures in your favorite magazine of boats that are running wot and see where the knock down spray is located in relation to the cockpit, this is s very good indicator as to wether it is a dry vs. wet boat...Sharky

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